Victor,

I tried your suggestion - substituting the MyCsound5 portaudio.dll for that
in Michael's Csound5.

Believe it or not, both worked fine and the same; that is, both allowed ASIO
drivers only. (This unless I did something wrong in the attempted
substitution - but I don't think so.)

What seems particularly strange to me is that the MyCsound5 portaudio.dll is
77K, while that of Csound5 blossoms to 2.7M.

So I gather (hesitantly) that it must take something besides just the
portaudio code to implement other driver models. Any further ideas as to how
to get more drivers into Csound5?

Art Hunkins

----- Original Message -----
From: "Victor Lazzarini" 
To: "Csound Developers Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 12:23 PM
Subject: [CSOUND-DEV:5532] Re: New file release of Csound 5 and CsoundVST
for Windows


> I haven't checked the new release, but I'd say it just needs a version of
> portaudio.dll built for all types of devices (MME, WDM (on w2k) and ASIO).
> If the library is not statically linked as in the previous version, it's
> probably
> just a case of trying it with a different DLL (Art you can try with the
> portaudio.dll
> that comes with mycsound5, however because it's msvc-built, it might clash
> with the migwin binary).
>
> Victor
>
>
> At 16:38 13/12/2004, you wrote:
> >Michael,
> >
> >I installed your new Windows file release, which seems to be working fine
> >with ASIO drivers on my fairly updated machine.
> >
> >Only one install hitch: Error message "A required .DLL file,
> >LIBSNDFILE-1.DLL, was not found." Changing the filename of libsndfile.dll
to
> >libsndfile-1.dll fixed this.
> >
> >A realtime run is now aborted cleanly by CTRL-C in the main performance
> >window, or by closing same window (it shuts down FLTK windows at the same
> >time - which is very nice).
> >
> >One caveat: don't try to abort the run with CTRL-BREAK; the system will
lock
> >up. (If this could be "fixed," it would be nice.)
> >
> >I had hoped maybe you'd try to get the non-ASIO drivers working again, as
I
> >think Victor has done in his MyCsound5 release (perhaps I am mistaken
about
> >this). If I *am* correct, perhaps Victor can pass on some hints as to how
he
> >did it?
> >
> >I'll get out my slower machine to see if ASIO will run on it - but from
my
> >previous experience, I very much doubt it. (As you'll recall, latency is
not
> >an important consideration for me.)
> >
> >Art Hunkins
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: 
> >To: "Csound Developers Discussion List" 
> >Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 8:44 PM
> >Subject: [CSOUND-DEV:5525] New file release of Csound 5 and CsoundVST for
> >Windows
> >
> >
> >This is a new build of Csound 5 and CsoundVST with prebuilt binaries for
> >Windows with MinGW, and sources for all platforms.
> >
> >     csoundvst package at http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/csound
> >         csound5-mingw-2004-12-12.zip Windows binaries and all sources
> >         csound-2004-12-12.pdf Csound reference manual and API
documentation
> >
> >Built with updated versions of libsndfile, PortAudio, FLTK, and Loris.
> >
> >New features include user-defined function tables in Csound, and a
> >counterpoint generator in CsoundVST. Experimental PortMIDI support.
> >
> >Several bug fixes. Removed most compiler warnings (with MinGW, anyway).
> >
> >Changes:
> >
> >2004-12-12  Michael Gogins 
> >
> >* Updated to FLTK 1.1.6, libsndfile 1.1.11, CVS PortAudio,
> >CVS Loris for Windows pre-built binaries.
> >
> >* Added Loris API documentation to Csound reference manual.
> >
> >2004-12-10  John ffitch  
> >
> >* InOut/libsnd.c: and code
> >
> >* OOps/sndinfUG.c (getsndinfo): Removed unused called to readheader
> >
> >2004-12-03  Michael Gogins 
> >
> >* Tried to remove most remaining compiler warnings: mostly returning
> >int from main, sscanf for %lf with USE_DOUBLE, type casting, etc.
> >
> >2004-12-02  John ffitch  
> >
> >* SConstruct (else): Added PortMIDI build option to aid experimentation.
> >
> >2004-11-30  John ffitch  
> >
> >* Top/main.c (signal_handler): Move message to after check for alarm
> >
> >2004-11-25  Michael Gogins 
> >
> >* Initial implementation of CounterpointNode --
> >generates species 1, 2, or 3 counterpoint for cantus firmi
> >selected from notes generated by child nodes.
> >Based on code from Bill Schottstaedt's species counterpoint generator
> >(thanks, Bill!).
> >
> >* Optimized the build for boost::ublas matrix code
> >in CsoundVST Node classes.
> >
> >2004-11-28  John ffitch  
> >
> >* OOps/pvfileio.c (write_pvocdata, pvoc_readfmt): Use a union
> >rather than dubious casts.
> >
> >2004-11-23  John ffitch  
> >
> >* OOps/midirecv.c (m_chanmsg): Removed initial values for
> >volume/balance/pan/expressions/bend/mastvol
> >
> >2004-11-16  John ffitch  
> >
> >* OOps/ugens2.c (itable, itabli, itabl3): Need to check OK rather
> >than assume true=OK
> >
> >* Engine/fgens.c: All over removed statics into the environment or
> >into arguments.  Make ftfind etc take extra argument.  Should
> >assist with reentrance.
> >
> >2004-11-14  John ffitch  
> >
> >* util2/exports/het_import.c (main): Open output as binary stream
> >
> >* Top/main.c (mainRESET): ftRESET takes environment argument
> >
> >* Engine/fgens.c: Move many statics into a single static.  Adjust
> >args to gens to reflect this -- statics almost unnecessary
> >
> >2004-11-11  Michael Gogins 
> >
> >* Changed the Python interface to CsoundVST to allow Python
> >programmers to derive new classes in Python from CsoundVST.Node,
> >and these new classes will function as C++ Node * objects in the
> >CsoundVST C++ internals. This enables Python-derived Nodes to
> >function just like regular C++ Nodes in music graphs.
> >
> >2004-11-11  John ffitch  
> >
> >* Engine/fgens.c: Removed static variables ftp and nargs and used
> >arguments instead.  Simplifications all over
> >
> >2004-11-10  John ffitch  
> >
> >* H/csdl.h (FLINKAGE): defined
> >
> >* Top/dl_opcodes.c: Allow definitions of fgens
> >
> >* H/csoundCore.h: Added NGFENS structure
> >
> >2004-11-09  John ffitch  
> >
> >* Engine/fgens.c (fgens): Started named fgens
> >(fterror): Allow named gens in error messages
> >(allocgen): New function to allocate new names
> >
> >
> >
> >--------------------------------------------------------------------
> >mail2web - Check your email from the web at
> >http://mail2web.com/ .
>
> Victor Lazzarini
> Music Technology Laboratory
> Music Department
> National University of Ireland, Maynooth
>

That's  strange, because apart from fixing the bits that did not
work, I did not do anything else to the code. In addition, Michael
Gogins has incorporated my fixes, as far as I know.

Perhaps Michael will have some clues as to what it's needed for
full support. The difference in size of the DLLs has to do with them
being built with different compilers, so the MSVC might depend more
on system DLLs than the mingwn, which probably has more static code
in it.

I'll see what I can find out.

Victor

At 03:44 15/12/2004, you wrote:
>Victor,
>
>I tried your suggestion - substituting the MyCsound5 portaudio.dll for that
>in Michael's Csound5.
>
>Believe it or not, both worked fine and the same; that is, both allowed ASIO
>drivers only. (This unless I did something wrong in the attempted
>substitution - but I don't think so.)
>
>What seems particularly strange to me is that the MyCsound5 portaudio.dll is
>77K, while that of Csound5 blossoms to 2.7M.
>
>So I gather (hesitantly) that it must take something besides just the
>portaudio code to implement other driver models. Any further ideas as to how
>to get more drivers into Csound5?
>
>Art Hunkins
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Victor Lazzarini" 
>To: "Csound Developers Discussion List" 
>Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 12:23 PM
>Subject: [CSOUND-DEV:5532] Re: New file release of Csound 5 and CsoundVST
>for Windows
>
>
> > I haven't checked the new release, but I'd say it just needs a version of
> > portaudio.dll built for all types of devices (MME, WDM (on w2k) and ASIO).
> > If the library is not statically linked as in the previous version, it's
> > probably
> > just a case of trying it with a different DLL (Art you can try with the
> > portaudio.dll
> > that comes with mycsound5, however because it's msvc-built, it might clash
> > with the migwin binary).
> >
> > Victor
> >
> >
> > At 16:38 13/12/2004, you wrote:
> > >Michael,
> > >
> > >I installed your new Windows file release, which seems to be working fine
> > >with ASIO drivers on my fairly updated machine.
> > >
> > >Only one install hitch: Error message "A required .DLL file,
> > >LIBSNDFILE-1.DLL, was not found." Changing the filename of libsndfile.dll
>to
> > >libsndfile-1.dll fixed this.
> > >
> > >A realtime run is now aborted cleanly by CTRL-C in the main performance
> > >window, or by closing same window (it shuts down FLTK windows at the same
> > >time - which is very nice).
> > >
> > >One caveat: don't try to abort the run with CTRL-BREAK; the system will
>lock
> > >up. (If this could be "fixed," it would be nice.)
> > >
> > >I had hoped maybe you'd try to get the non-ASIO drivers working again, as
>I
> > >think Victor has done in his MyCsound5 release (perhaps I am mistaken
>about
> > >this). If I *am* correct, perhaps Victor can pass on some hints as to how
>he
> > >did it?
> > >
> > >I'll get out my slower machine to see if ASIO will run on it - but from
>my
> > >previous experience, I very much doubt it. (As you'll recall, latency is
>not
> > >an important consideration for me.)
> > >
> > >Art Hunkins
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: 
> > >To: "Csound Developers Discussion List" 
> > >Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 8:44 PM
> > >Subject: [CSOUND-DEV:5525] New file release of Csound 5 and CsoundVST for
> > >Windows
> > >
> > >
> > >This is a new build of Csound 5 and CsoundVST with prebuilt binaries for
> > >Windows with MinGW, and sources for all platforms.
> > >
> > >     csoundvst package at http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/csound
> > >         csound5-mingw-2004-12-12.zip Windows binaries and all sources
> > >         csound-2004-12-12.pdf Csound reference manual and API
>documentation
> > >
> > >Built with updated versions of libsndfile, PortAudio, FLTK, and Loris.
> > >
> > >New features include user-defined function tables in Csound, and a
> > >counterpoint generator in CsoundVST. Experimental PortMIDI support.
> > >
> > >Several bug fixes. Removed most compiler warnings (with MinGW, anyway).
> > >
> > >Changes:
> > >
> > >2004-12-12  Michael Gogins 
> > >
> > >* Updated to FLTK 1.1.6, libsndfile 1.1.11, CVS PortAudio,
> > >CVS Loris for Windows pre-built binaries.
> > >
> > >* Added Loris API documentation to Csound reference manual.
> > >
> > >2004-12-10  John ffitch  
> > >
> > >* InOut/libsnd.c: and code
> > >
> > >* OOps/sndinfUG.c (getsndinfo): Removed unused called to readheader
> > >
> > >2004-12-03  Michael Gogins 
> > >
> > >* Tried to remove most remaining compiler warnings: mostly returning
> > >int from main, sscanf for %lf with USE_DOUBLE, type casting, etc.
> > >
> > >2004-12-02  John ffitch  
> > >
> > >* SConstruct (else): Added PortMIDI build option to aid experimentation.
> > >
> > >2004-11-30  John ffitch  
> > >
> > >* Top/main.c (signal_handler): Move message to after check for alarm
> > >
> > >2004-11-25  Michael Gogins 
> > >
> > >* Initial implementation of CounterpointNode --
> > >generates species 1, 2, or 3 counterpoint for cantus firmi
> > >selected from notes generated by child nodes.
> > >Based on code from Bill Schottstaedt's species counterpoint generator
> > >(thanks, Bill!).
> > >
> > >* Optimized the build for boost::ublas matrix code
> > >in CsoundVST Node classes.
> > >
> > >2004-11-28  John ffitch  
> > >
> > >* OOps/pvfileio.c (write_pvocdata, pvoc_readfmt): Use a union
> > >rather than dubious casts.
> > >
> > >2004-11-23  John ffitch  
> > >
> > >* OOps/midirecv.c (m_chanmsg): Removed initial values for
> > >volume/balance/pan/expressions/bend/mastvol
> > >
> > >2004-11-16  John ffitch  
> > >
> > >* OOps/ugens2.c (itable, itabli, itabl3): Need to check OK rather
> > >than assume true=OK
> > >
> > >* Engine/fgens.c: All over removed statics into the environment or
> > >into arguments.  Make ftfind etc take extra argument.  Should
> > >assist with reentrance.
> > >
> > >2004-11-14  John ffitch  
> > >
> > >* util2/exports/het_import.c (main): Open output as binary stream
> > >
> > >* Top/main.c (mainRESET): ftRESET takes environment argument
> > >
> > >* Engine/fgens.c: Move many statics into a single static.  Adjust
> > >args to gens to reflect this -- statics almost unnecessary
> > >
> > >2004-11-11  Michael Gogins 
> > >
> > >* Changed the Python interface to CsoundVST to allow Python
> > >programmers to derive new classes in Python from CsoundVST.Node,
> > >and these new classes will function as C++ Node * objects in the
> > >CsoundVST C++ internals. This enables Python-derived Nodes to
> > >function just like regular C++ Nodes in music graphs.
> > >
> > >2004-11-11  John ffitch  
> > >
> > >* Engine/fgens.c: Removed static variables ftp and nargs and used
> > >arguments instead.  Simplifications all over
> > >
> > >2004-11-10  John ffitch  
> > >
> > >* H/csdl.h (FLINKAGE): defined
> > >
> > >* Top/dl_opcodes.c: Allow definitions of fgens
> > >
> > >* H/csoundCore.h: Added NGFENS structure
> > >
> > >2004-11-09  John ffitch  
> > >
> > >* Engine/fgens.c (fgens): Started named fgens
> > >(fterror): Allow named gens in error messages
> > >(allocgen): New function to allocate new names
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >mail2web - Check your email from the web at
> > >http://mail2web.com/ .
> >
> > Victor Lazzarini
> > Music Technology Laboratory
> > Music Department
> > National University of Ireland, Maynooth
> >

Victor Lazzarini
Music Technology Laboratory
Music Department
National University of Ireland, Maynooth