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Re: [Cs-dev] sourceforge Downloads info

Date2008-03-26 09:49
Fromvictor
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] sourceforge Downloads info
Means I think we have to wait for bug reports etc before we can
work and commit on new code, otherwise there would be a mixture
of 5.09 adn 5.10 in the release, with 5.10 being untested.

Victor
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Oeyvind Brandtsegg" 
To: "Developer discussions" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] sourceforge Downloads info


>I will sign up for windows beta testing.
>
> What does 1. mean in practice ?
>
> best
> Oeyvind.
>
> 2008/3/25, victor :
>> That sounds OK, but two things:
>>
>> 1. Work on 5.10 can only really start after the full release.
>> 2. Can we have a list beta tester volunteers for each platform?
>>
>> Victor
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Oeyvind Brandtsegg" 
>> To: "Developer discussions" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 1:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] sourceforge Downloads info
>>
>>
>> >I do agree that beta releases are a good idea,
>> > so new users can safely install a slightly older and stable version.
>> > This will ease the way for new and inexperienced users. Currently,
>> > even some of the older releases do have some quirks (if I remember
>> > correctly), but once the release schedule is on track we will always
>> > have a "latest stable" release to recommend to new users.
>> >
>> > I would propose a month of prior notice for a beta release, and a
>> > month of beta testing. This admittedly slows down the release cycle,
>> > but will allow everyone ample time to finish and test the releases.
>> > So, as an example, we could say:
>> >
>> > (sometime this week, continuing until May 1st)
>> > Csound 5.09 "alpha versions for different platforms as the become 
>> > ready"
>> >
>> > (May 1st)
>> > Csound 5.09 "beta release for all platforms, all at the same time"
>> >
>> > (June 1st)
>> > Csound 5.09 official release
>> >
>> > Meanwhile, work on 5.10 will most probably continue on the side of the
>> > release schedule. Is this going to create a lot of trouble with CVS
>> > forking and things like that ? Sorry if there are issues involved that
>> > I do not understand fully.
>> > The result of my proposition will create a time lag of 2 months for
>> > new features (from initial implementation until official release), but
>> > hey, it's only 2 months ... and meanwhile the official Csound release
>> > can be stable and predictable for all platforms.
>> >
>> > best
>> > Oeyvind
>> >
>> > 2008/3/24, Michael Gogins :
>> >> The beta was valuable in my view, but it did not last long enough. 
>> >> More
>> >> timer for user feedback, i.e. a month or so, would have been much more
>> >> useful. After all, the only real reason for a beta release is just 
>> >> that:
>> >> get it out to users and use their feedback to get rid of bugs.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >From: jpff 
>> >> >Sent: Mar 24, 2008 3:57 AM
>> >> >To: Developer discussions 
>> >> >Cc: csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >> >Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] sourceforge Downloads info
>> >> >
>> >> >In this case the Linux beta installer had a serious problem, which 
>> >> >was
>> >> >not noticed until the real release.  From my pov the beta achieved
>> >> >noting but additional work.
>> >> >==John ffitch
>> >> >
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