[Cs-dev] Errata corrige Csound manual and some new technical requests

[Cs-dev] Errata corrige Csound manual and some new technical requests

Date	2011-12-10 15:37
From	mother father
Subject	[Cs-dev] Errata corrige Csound manual and some new technical requests
Attachments	Corrected_Manual_Examples_-_by_Tonetta_Ivan_(Ruben)_-_Italy.tar None None
	Hi to everyone!!! I'm a brand new csound mailing list subscriber and a big fan of this amazing software. Sorry for my english, but i need to improve it. I'm a 5 years Csound user and very happy to help it development through even my improvements and suggestions. Errors in the Csound manual: In attach you'll find the examples correct by my. opcode FLhvsBoxSetValue, in the 'Syntax' part, referred to opcode FLhvsBox opcode FLbutBank, in the 'Initialization' part, to miss the description for: iwidth, iheight opcode sensekey, the third (3rd) example, open the second and the examples don't work correctly: i don't see nothing on terminal My Csound requests: Why all the opcodes for VST, MP3 and 'Loris Family' are not supported in Csound 5.14? (Win7 64Bit) Why the -z flag showes 1284 opcodes but the Csound Terminal indicates 1570? Could be nice to inform the users (into the manual) that the libpng-1.4.3 must be installed in the system, before using the imagexxx opcodes? When will the complete porting of CsoundAV opcodes finish? It's possible to create a new opcode FLbutBank2 with a new argument: ilabel 0 = off, 1 = on (default = 1) It's possible to add the Csoundo, Csound~, AVSynthesis, CsoundVST, (and libpng?...) into the Csound installer? To reduce the size of the in/out opcodes list, could be a good idea to create two new opcodes, (for example: 'input' and 'output') to replaces 23 opcodes? It's work in reference with nchnls and nchnls_i opcodes: example for a possible syntax: act opcode my syntax header setting in a1 input 1 nchnls_i = 1 ins a1, a2 input 1, 2 nchnls_i = 2 ins1 a1, a0 input 1, 0 nchnls_i = 2 ins2 a0, a2 input 0, 2 nchnls_i = 2 inq a1, a2, a3, a4 input 1, 2, 3, 4 nchnls_i = 4 inq1 a1, a0, a0, a0 input 1, 0, 0, 0 nchnls_i = 4 inq2 a0, a2, a0, a0 input 0, 2, 0, 0 nchnls_i = 4 inq3 a0, a0, a3, a0 input 0, 0, 3, 0 nchnls_i = 4 inq4 a0, a0, a0, a4 input 0, 0, 0, 4 nchnls_i = 4 inh a1, a2, a3, a4, a5, a6 input 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 nchnls_i = 6 ino a1, a2, a3, a4, a5, a6, a7, a8 input 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 nchnls_i = 8 inx a1, a2, a3, a4, ..., a16 input 1, 2, 3, 4, ..., 16 nchnls_i = 16 in32 a1, a2, a3, a4, ..., a32 input 1, 2, 3, 4, ..., 32 nchnls_i = 32 out output a1 nchnls = 1 outs output a1, a2 nchnls = 2 outs1 output a1, a0 nchnls = 2 outs2 output a0, a2 nchnls = 2 outq output a1, a2, a3, a4 nchnls = 4 outq1 output a1, a0, a0, a0 nchnls = 4 outq2 output a0, a2, a0, a0 nchnls = 4 outq3 output a0, a0, a3, a0 nchnls = 4 outq4 output a0, a0, a0, a4 nchnls = 4 outh output a1, a2, a3, a4, a5, a6 nchnls = 6 outo output a1, a2, a3, a4, a5, a6, a7, a8 nchnls = 8 outx output a1, a2, a3, a4, ..., a16 nchnls = 16 I hope this will help the Csound development community Best regards, Tonetta Ivan (Ruben) - Italy out32 output a1, a2, a3, a4, ..., a32 nchnls = 32

Date	2011-12-10 16:19
From	Victor Lazzarini
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Errata corrige Csound manual and some new technical requests
Attachments	None None
	Thanks for your corrections and suggestions. On 10 Dec 2011, at 15:37, mother father wrote: My Csound requests: Why all the opcodes for VST, MP3 and 'Loris Family' are not supported in Csound 5.14? (Win7 64Bit) Loris is distributed by the Loris developers and if you install it with their instructions and then load it up with --opcode-lib option Why the -z flag showes 1284 opcodes but the Csound Terminal indicates 1570? This is probably because in one case (1284) not all opcode plugin libraries have been loaded (not sure why). Could be nice to inform the users (into the manual) that the libpng-1.4.3 must be installed in the system, before using the imagexxx opcodes? That should not be the case. Csound release packages should provide all of its dependencies. You need to file a bug so that the Windows package gets fixed. When will the complete porting of CsoundAV opcodes finish? No further opcodes from that fork of Csound are being planned to be added. It's possible to create a new opcode FLbutBank2 with a new argument: ilabel 0 = off, 1 = on (default = 1) We are not currently planning on expanding or adding functionality to FLTK opcodes, as these are not recommended for use anymore. They are kept for backwards compatibility. It's possible to add the Csoundo, Csound~, AVSynthesis, CsoundVST, (and libpng?...) into the Csound installer? My impression is that CsoundVST cannot be released in sourceforge. AVSynthesis and Csound~ are separate projects. Not sure what Csoundo is? But libpng should really be there. To reduce the size of the in/out opcodes list, could be a good idea to create two new opcodes, (for example: 'input' and 'output') to replaces 23 opcodes? It's work in reference with nchnls and nchnls_i opcodes: We can't remove any opcodes. There is already inch and outch to do what you suggest. example for a possible syntax: act opcode my syntax header setting in a1 input 1 nchnls_i = 1 ins a1, a2 input 1, 2 nchnls_i = 2 ins1 a1, a0 input 1, 0 nchnls_i = 2 ins2 a0, a2 input 0, 2 nchnls_i = 2 inq a1, a2, a3, a4 input 1, 2, 3, 4 nchnls_i = 4 inq1 a1, a0, a0, a0 input 1, 0, 0, 0 nchnls_i = 4 inq2 a0, a2, a0, a0 input 0, 2, 0, 0 nchnls_i = 4 inq3 a0, a0, a3, a0 input 0, 0, 3, 0 nchnls_i = 4 inq4 a0, a0, a0, a4 input 0, 0, 0, 4 nchnls_i = 4 inh a1, a2, a3, a4, a5, a6 input 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 nchnls_i = 6 ino a1, a2, a3, a4, a5, a6, a7, a8 input 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 nchnls_i = 8 inx a1, a2, a3, a4, ..., a16 input 1, 2, 3, 4, ..., 16 nchnls_i = 16 in32 a1, a2, a3, a4, ..., a32 input 1, 2, 3, 4, ..., 32 nchnls_i = 32 out output a1 nchnls = 1 outs output a1, a2 nchnls = 2 outs1 output a1, a0 nchnls = 2 outs2 output a0, a2 nchnls = 2 outq output a1, a2, a3, a4 nchnls = 4 outq1 output a1, a0, a0, a0 nchnls = 4 outq2 output a0, a2, a0, a0 nchnls = 4 outq3 output a0, a0, a3, a0 nchnls = 4 outq4 output a0, a0, a0, a4 nchnls = 4 outh output a1, a2, a3, a4, a5, a6 nchnls = 6 outo output a1, a2, a3, a4, a5, a6, a7, a8 nchnls = 8 outx output a1, a2, a3, a4, ..., a16 nchnls = 16 I hope this will help the Csound development community Best regards, Tonetta Ivan (Ruben) - Italy out32 output a1, a2, a3, a4, ..., a32 nchnls = 32 <Corrected_Manual_Examples_-_by_Tonetta_Ivan_(Ruben)_-_Italy.tar>------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Learn Windows Azure Live! Tuesday, Dec 13, 2011 Microsoft is holding a special Learn Windows Azure training event for developers. It will provide a great way to learn Windows Azure and what it provides. You can attend the event by watching it streamed LIVE online. Learn more at http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-windowsazure_______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel Dr Victor Lazzarini Senior Lecturer Dept. of Music NUI Maynooth Ireland tel.: +353 1 708 3545 Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie

Date	2011-12-10 18:01
From	menno
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Errata corrige Csound manual and some new technical requests
	Hi mother father, welcome to the mailing list, and it feels like already you are a part of the family! thanks for the corrections in the examples from the manual. i will look into them and correct them in the manual asap. grretings Menno -- View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/Errata-corrige-Csound-manual-and-some-new-technical-requests-tp5064526p5064741.html Sent from the Csound - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Learn Windows Azure Live! Tuesday, Dec 13, 2011 Microsoft is holding a special Learn Windows Azure training event for developers. It will provide a great way to learn Windows Azure and what it provides. You can attend the event by watching it streamed LIVE online. Learn more at http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-windowsazure _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Date	2011-12-13 16:48
From	Giorgio Zucco
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Errata corrige Csound manual and some new technical requests
	My Csound requests: When will the complete porting of CsoundAV opcodes finish? is my dream!would be great to complete the upgrade of Csound5 with OpenGL opcodes from CsoundAV, it will be possible in the future?would be great to control audio and video in real time with a single csd file in Csound5,bye Giorgio -- View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/Errata-corrige-Csound-manual-and-some-new-technical-requests-tp5064526p5072066.html Sent from the Csound - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Systems Optimization Self Assessment Improve efficiency and utilization of IT resources. Drive out cost and improve service delivery. Take 5 minutes to use this Systems Optimization Self Assessment. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sdnl/114/51450054/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Date	2011-12-13 17:20
From	Victor Lazzarini
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Errata corrige Csound manual and some new technical requests
	I don't think this is a priority for csound developers at the moment. If anyone wants to do this as a separate project of plugin opcodes, s/he is welcome to go ahead. Victor On 13 Dec 2011, at 16:48, Giorgio Zucco wrote: > My Csound requests: > > When will the complete porting of CsoundAV opcodes finish? > > > > is my dream!would be great to complete the upgrade of Csound5 with OpenGL > opcodes from CsoundAV, it will be possible in the future?would be great to > control audio and video in real time with a single csd file in Csound5,bye > > Giorgio > > -- > View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/Errata-corrige-Csound-manual-and-some-new-technical-requests-tp5064526p5072066.html > Sent from the Csound - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Systems Optimization Self Assessment > Improve efficiency and utilization of IT resources. Drive out cost and > improve service delivery. Take 5 minutes to use this Systems Optimization > Self Assessment. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sdnl/114/51450054/ > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel Dr Victor Lazzarini Senior Lecturer Dept. of Music NUI Maynooth Ireland tel.: +353 1 708 3545 Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Systems Optimization Self Assessment Improve efficiency and utilization of IT resources. Drive out cost and improve service delivery. Take 5 minutes to use this Systems Optimization Self Assessment. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sdnl/114/51450054/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Date	2011-12-13 17:22
From	Rory Walsh
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Errata corrige Csound manual and some new technical requests
	Controlling audio and visuals in realtime using Csound can be done with Csoundo and Processing. It works very well. On 13 December 2011 16:48, Giorgio Zucco wrote: > My Csound requests: > > When will the complete porting of CsoundAV opcodes finish? > > > > is my dream!would be great to complete the upgrade of Csound5 with OpenGL > opcodes from CsoundAV, it will be possible in the future?would be great to > control audio and video in real time with a single csd file in Csound5,bye > > Giorgio > > -- > View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/Errata-corrige-Csound-manual-and-some-new-technical-requests-tp5064526p5072066.html > Sent from the Csound - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Systems Optimization Self Assessment > Improve efficiency and utilization of IT resources. Drive out cost and > improve service delivery. Take 5 minutes to use this Systems Optimization > Self Assessment. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sdnl/114/51450054/ > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Systems Optimization Self Assessment Improve efficiency and utilization of IT resources. Drive out cost and improve service delivery. Take 5 minutes to use this Systems Optimization Self Assessment. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sdnl/114/51450054/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Date	2011-12-13 18:28
From	Michael Gogins
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Errata corrige Csound manual and some new technical requests
	Another option, if you are running on an Intel processor, is to use the Lua opcodes in Csound with the LuaJIT virtual machine (which actually comes with Csound, in the Windows installer). LuaJIT has a full-featured foreign function interface that permits one to call any exported function in any DLL. Currently, it is even possible to set up callbacks in Lua for C libraries such as OpenGL. The short of this is, from Csound, using embedded Lua, you can call any OpenGL function and perform OpenGL processing during a Csound performance. I have documented this in a paper in the 2011 Csound Conference at Hannover, also I have some examples in the Csound GIT repository. I do not yet have samples of OpenGL from Lua in Csound, but I have a piano roll score viewer that I implemented in Lua using OpenGL, so I know it is possible. This scoreviewer is accessible in the Silencio project in Google Code. Hope this helps, Mike On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Rory Walsh wrote: > Controlling audio and visuals in realtime using Csound can be done > with Csoundo and Processing. It works very well. > > On 13 December 2011 16:48, Giorgio Zucco wrote: >> My Csound requests: >> >> When will the complete porting of CsoundAV opcodes finish? >> >> >> >> is my dream!would be great to complete the upgrade of Csound5 with OpenGL >> opcodes from CsoundAV, it will be possible in the future?would be great to >> control audio and video in real time with a single csd file in Csound5,bye >> >> Giorgio >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/Errata-corrige-Csound-manual-and-some-new-technical-requests-tp5064526p5072066.html >> Sent from the Csound - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Systems Optimization Self Assessment >> Improve efficiency and utilization of IT resources. Drive out cost and >> improve service delivery. Take 5 minutes to use this Systems Optimization >> Self Assessment. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sdnl/114/51450054/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Csound-devel mailing list >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Systems Optimization Self Assessment > Improve efficiency and utilization of IT resources. Drive out cost and > improve service delivery. Take 5 minutes to use this Systems Optimization > Self Assessment. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sdnl/114/51450054/ > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel -- Michael Gogins Irreducible Productions http://www.michael-gogins.com Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Systems Optimization Self Assessment Improve efficiency and utilization of IT resources. Drive out cost and improve service delivery. Take 5 minutes to use this Systems Optimization Self Assessment. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sdnl/114/51450054/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Date	2011-12-13 19:19
From	jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Errata corrige Csound manual and some new technical requests
	Last time I looked at thi sI could not find the sources ==John f > My Csound requests: > > When will the complete porting of CsoundAV opcodes finish? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Systems Optimization Self Assessment Improve efficiency and utilization of IT resources. Drive out cost and improve service delivery. Take 5 minutes to use this Systems Optimization Self Assessment. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sdnl/114/51450054/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Date	2011-12-13 19:42
From	Michael Gogins
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Errata corrige Csound manual and some new technical requests
	Are you referring to the Lua opcodes or to Silencio? Lua opcodes: http://csound.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=csound/csound5.git;a=blob_plain;f=Opcodes/LuaCsound.cpp;hb=HEAD Silencio code: http://code.google.com/p/silencio/source/browse/#svn%2Ftrunk Regards, Mike On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:19 PM, wrote: > Last time I looked at thi sI could not find the sources > ==John f > >> My Csound requests: >> >> When will the complete porting of CsoundAV opcodes finish? >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Systems Optimization Self Assessment > Improve efficiency and utilization of IT resources. Drive out cost and > improve service delivery. Take 5 minutes to use this Systems Optimization > Self Assessment. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sdnl/114/51450054/ > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel -- Michael Gogins Irreducible Productions http://www.michael-gogins.com Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Systems Optimization Self Assessment Improve efficiency and utilization of IT resources. Drive out cost and improve service delivery. Take 5 minutes to use this Systems Optimization Self Assessment. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sdnl/114/51450054/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Date	2011-12-13 21:41
From	Giorgio Zucco
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Errata corrige Csound manual and some new technical requests
	great, thanks for the suggestion, I just tested csoundo with processing, maybe the installation is a bit complicated for beginners, the creative possibilities are huge,thanks to J.Joaquin for the tool,bye Giorgio -- View this message in context: http://csound.1045644.n5.nabble.com/Errata-corrige-Csound-manual-and-some-new-technical-requests-tp5064526p5072863.html Sent from the Csound - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Systems Optimization Self Assessment Improve efficiency and utilization of IT resources. Drive out cost and improve service delivery. Take 5 minutes to use this Systems Optimization Self Assessment. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sdnl/114/51450054/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Date	2011-12-13 21:44
From	jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Errata corrige Csound manual and some new technical requests
	> Are you referring to the Lua opcodes or to Silencio? > csoundAV ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Systems Optimization Self Assessment Improve efficiency and utilization of IT resources. Drive out cost and improve service delivery. Take 5 minutes to use this Systems Optimization Self Assessment. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sdnl/114/51450054/ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net