[Cs-dev] Android or iPad or whatever native toolchain

[Cs-dev] Android or iPad or whatever native toolchain

Date	2012-10-05 20:34
From	Michael Gogins
Subject	[Cs-dev] Android or iPad or whatever native toolchain
	This is a question for those of us who are developing for pads. Is there a C/C++ compiler that you can put on a pad and use to compile software that will run on the pad? I've heard of something called "c4droid" that might do. The purpose would not be building Csound on a pad, but rather, writing compositions on a pad in C++ that link with Csound and running those compositions on the pad. Motive: likely move of my office to a more distant train station pretty soon. I don't care what KIND of pad... Thanks, Mike -- Michael Gogins Irreducible Productions http://www.michael-gogins.com Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Date	2012-10-05 20:56
From	Justin Smith
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Android or iPad or whatever native toolchain
	Maemo is a bit out of date, but if you find a pad running maemo it will run gcc/g++ and csound inside the "easy debian" package (which provides a standard debian with working package manager inside a chroot). Until my n900 broke down I used it for various csound related tasks. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Michael Gogins wrote: > This is a question for those of us who are developing for pads. > > Is there a C/C++ compiler that you can put on a pad and use to compile > software that will run on the pad? I've heard of something called > "c4droid" that might do. > > The purpose would not be building Csound on a pad, but rather, writing > compositions on a pad in C++ that link with Csound and running those > compositions on the pad. > > Motive: likely move of my office to a more distant train station pretty soon. > > I don't care what KIND of pad... > > Thanks, > Mike > > -- > Michael Gogins > Irreducible Productions > http://www.michael-gogins.com > Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM > Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly > what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app > Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Date	2012-10-06 00:09
From	Victor Lazzarini
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Android or iPad or whatever native toolchain
	Wouldn't it be better to have a netbook instead? On 5 Oct 2012, at 20:34, Michael Gogins wrote: > This is a question for those of us who are developing for pads. > > Is there a C/C++ compiler that you can put on a pad and use to compile > software that will run on the pad? I've heard of something called > "c4droid" that might do. > > The purpose would not be building Csound on a pad, but rather, writing > compositions on a pad in C++ that link with Csound and running those > compositions on the pad. > > Motive: likely move of my office to a more distant train station pretty soon. > > I don't care what KIND of pad... > > Thanks, > Mike > > -- > Michael Gogins > Irreducible Productions > http://www.michael-gogins.com > Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM > Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly > what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app > Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel Dr Victor Lazzarini Senior Lecturer Dept. of Music NUI Maynooth Ireland tel.: +353 1 708 3545 Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Date	2012-10-06 00:11
From	Victor Lazzarini
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Android or iPad or whatever native toolchain
	By the way, if you can live with scripting, Android has a python/etc scripting host app. Not sure whether it can load a csound module, but it might be possible. Text editing on a tablet is a bit of Chinese torture IMO though. On 5 Oct 2012, at 20:34, Michael Gogins wrote: > This is a question for those of us who are developing for pads. > > Is there a C/C++ compiler that you can put on a pad and use to compile > software that will run on the pad? I've heard of something called > "c4droid" that might do. > > The purpose would not be building Csound on a pad, but rather, writing > compositions on a pad in C++ that link with Csound and running those > compositions on the pad. > > Motive: likely move of my office to a more distant train station pretty soon. > > I don't care what KIND of pad... > > Thanks, > Mike > > -- > Michael Gogins > Irreducible Productions > http://www.michael-gogins.com > Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM > Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly > what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app > Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel Dr Victor Lazzarini Senior Lecturer Dept. of Music NUI Maynooth Ireland tel.: +353 1 708 3545 Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Date	2012-10-06 21:52
From	Michael Gogins
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Android or iPad or whatever native toolchain
	Not if you are on a crowded subway or PATH train. Best, Mike On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Victor Lazzarini wrote: > Wouldn't it be better to have a netbook instead? > On 5 Oct 2012, at 20:34, Michael Gogins wrote: > >> This is a question for those of us who are developing for pads. >> >> Is there a C/C++ compiler that you can put on a pad and use to compile >> software that will run on the pad? I've heard of something called >> "c4droid" that might do. >> >> The purpose would not be building Csound on a pad, but rather, writing >> compositions on a pad in C++ that link with Csound and running those >> compositions on the pad. >> >> Motive: likely move of my office to a more distant train station pretty soon. >> >> I don't care what KIND of pad... >> >> Thanks, >> Mike >> >> -- >> Michael Gogins >> Irreducible Productions >> http://www.michael-gogins.com >> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM >> Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly >> what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app >> Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Csound-devel mailing list >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > Dr Victor Lazzarini > Senior Lecturer > Dept. of Music > NUI Maynooth Ireland > tel.: +353 1 708 3545 > Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM > Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly > what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app > Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel -- Michael Gogins Irreducible Productions http://www.michael-gogins.com Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Date	2012-10-07 16:35
From	Steven Yi
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Android or iPad or whatever native toolchain
	Hi MIchael, Have you thought about waiting for the new Windows 8 tablets coming out? steven On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Michael Gogins wrote: > Not if you are on a crowded subway or PATH train. > > Best, > Mike > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Victor Lazzarini > wrote: >> Wouldn't it be better to have a netbook instead? >> On 5 Oct 2012, at 20:34, Michael Gogins wrote: >> >>> This is a question for those of us who are developing for pads. >>> >>> Is there a C/C++ compiler that you can put on a pad and use to compile >>> software that will run on the pad? I've heard of something called >>> "c4droid" that might do. >>> >>> The purpose would not be building Csound on a pad, but rather, writing >>> compositions on a pad in C++ that link with Csound and running those >>> compositions on the pad. >>> >>> Motive: likely move of my office to a more distant train station pretty soon. >>> >>> I don't care what KIND of pad... >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Mike >>> >>> -- >>> Michael Gogins >>> Irreducible Productions >>> http://www.michael-gogins.com >>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM >>> Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly >>> what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app >>> Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >> Dr Victor Lazzarini >> Senior Lecturer >> Dept. of Music >> NUI Maynooth Ireland >> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM >> Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly >> what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app >> Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Csound-devel mailing list >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > > > -- > Michael Gogins > Irreducible Productions > http://www.michael-gogins.com > Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM > Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly > what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app > Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net

Date	2012-10-07 17:20
From	Richard Henninger
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Android or iPad or whatever native toolchain
	Mike, I can shed light on this if you are interested. I am already running VS2012 express and csound over Win8 on a laptop/tablet in anticipation of getting an Intel-based Win8 tablet when they become available soon. If you avoid WinRT's restrictions, you can treat your tablet it just like a regular windows box. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure that VS will run NOT on the ARM versions (limited to WinRT) - it is just a target platform. Neither will csound run on an ARM Win8 tablet nor as a Metro App for sure without revisions to csound similar to what Steve and Victor did for Android and iOS. But for anyone comfortable with csound and VS or gnu on win7, using them on a Win8 Intel tablet in desktop mode should give you your usual access to every tool you use currently in Win7. I plan to use an Intel/Win8 tablet as my portable development box. Richard -----Original Message----- From: Steven Yi [mailto:stevenyi@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 11:35 AM To: Developer discussions Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Android or iPad or whatever native toolchain Hi MIchael, Have you thought about waiting for the new Windows 8 tablets coming out? steven On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Michael Gogins wrote: > Not if you are on a crowded subway or PATH train. > > Best, > Mike > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Victor Lazzarini > wrote: >> Wouldn't it be better to have a netbook instead? >> On 5 Oct 2012, at 20:34, Michael Gogins wrote: >> >>> This is a question for those of us who are developing for pads. >>> >>> Is there a C/C++ compiler that you can put on a pad and use to >>> compile software that will run on the pad? I've heard of something >>> called "c4droid" that might do. >>> >>> The purpose would not be building Csound on a pad, but rather, >>> writing compositions on a pad in C++ that link with Csound and >>> running those compositions on the pad. >>> >>> Motive: likely move of my office to a more distant train station pretty soon. >>> >>> I don't care what KIND of pad... >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Mike >>> >>> -- >>> Michael Gogins >>> Irreducible Productions >>> http://www.michael-gogins.com >>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---------- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. >>> Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and >>> know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, >>> and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data >>> Nerd shirt too! >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >> Dr Victor Lazzarini >> Senior Lecturer >> Dept. of Music >> NUI Maynooth Ireland >> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --------- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy >> New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know >> exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and >> .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd >> shirt too! >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Csound-devel mailing list >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > > > -- > Michael Gogins > Irreducible Productions > http://www.michael-gogins.com > Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. 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Date	2012-10-07 20:08
From	Michael Gogins
Subject	Re: [Cs-dev] Android or iPad or whatever native toolchain
	Thanks Steven and Richard, I honestly hadn't thought of that because I have a bias against both Windows and OS X, in spite of the fact that I use WIndows at work and find it very good technically. I'll certainly be keeping this in mind if I have to jump and buy something. Thanks, Mike On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Richard Henninger wrote: > Mike, > I can shed light on this if you are interested. I am already running VS2012 express and csound over Win8 on a laptop/tablet in anticipation of getting an Intel-based Win8 tablet when they become available soon. If you avoid WinRT's restrictions, you can treat your tablet it just like a regular windows box. > > On the other hand, I'm pretty sure that VS will run NOT on the ARM versions (limited to WinRT) - it is just a target platform. Neither will csound run on an ARM Win8 tablet nor as a Metro App for sure without revisions to csound similar to what Steve and Victor did for Android and iOS. But for anyone comfortable with csound and VS or gnu on win7, using them on a Win8 Intel tablet in desktop mode should give you your usual access to every tool you use currently in Win7. I plan to use an Intel/Win8 tablet as my portable development box. > > Richard > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven Yi [mailto:stevenyi@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 11:35 AM > To: Developer discussions > Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Android or iPad or whatever native toolchain > > Hi MIchael, > > Have you thought about waiting for the new Windows 8 tablets coming out? > > steven > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Michael Gogins wrote: >> Not if you are on a crowded subway or PATH train. >> >> Best, >> Mike >> >> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Victor Lazzarini >> wrote: >>> Wouldn't it be better to have a netbook instead? >>> On 5 Oct 2012, at 20:34, Michael Gogins wrote: >>> >>>> This is a question for those of us who are developing for pads. >>>> >>>> Is there a C/C++ compiler that you can put on a pad and use to >>>> compile software that will run on the pad? I've heard of something >>>> called "c4droid" that might do. >>>> >>>> The purpose would not be building Csound on a pad, but rather, >>>> writing compositions on a pad in C++ that link with Csound and >>>> running those compositions on the pad. >>>> >>>> Motive: likely move of my office to a more distant train station pretty soon. >>>> >>>> I don't care what KIND of pad... >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Michael Gogins >>>> Irreducible Productions >>>> http://www.michael-gogins.com >>>> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ---------- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. >>>> Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and >>>> know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, >>>> and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data >>>> Nerd shirt too! >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Csound-devel mailing list >>>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >>> >>> Dr Victor Lazzarini >>> Senior Lecturer >>> Dept. of Music >>> NUI Maynooth Ireland >>> tel.: +353 1 708 3545 >>> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> --------- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy >>> New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know >>> exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and >>> .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd >>> shirt too! >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Csound-devel mailing list >>> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel >> >> >> >> -- >> Michael Gogins >> Irreducible Productions >> http://www.michael-gogins.com >> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -------- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy >> New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know >> exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and >> .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd >> shirt too! >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Csound-devel mailing list >> Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. 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