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Re: [Cs-dev] Addition to manual

Date2006-04-26 19:36
From"Art Hunkins"
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Addition to manual
Right. (I forgot about Win 2000.)

The paragraph below should probably read:

Windows

 To set a csound environment on Windows XP and 2000 go to
Control Panel->System->Advanced and click on the button
'Environment Variables'. On other Windows OS's earlier than XP you set
environment variables in the autoexec.bat file.

Art Hunkins

----- Original Message -----
From: "Istvan Varga" 
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Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Addition to manual


> On Tuesday 25 April 2006 00:53, Art Hunkins wrote:
>
> > Windows
> >
> > To set a csound environment on Windows XP go to
> > Control Panel->System->Advanced and click on the button
> > 'Environment Variables'. On Windows earlier than XP you set
> > environment variables in the autoexec.bat file.
>
> The control panel (rather than autoexec.bat) is also used on Windows 2000.
>
>
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Date2006-04-26 23:08
FromDavid Akbari
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Addition to manual
On Apr 26, 2006, at 2:36 PM, Art Hunkins wrote:

> On other Windows OS's earlier than XP you set
> environment variables in the autoexec.bat file.

Actually, after spending some time configuring Csound5 to run properly 
in WINE under Linux, (then testing on a spare DX486 running Windows 95) 
I have found a potentially better solution for Windows OSes <= 2000 on 
the FAT32 filesystem.

Consider that editing the AUTOEXEC.BAT file requires that the user 
either run the batch file or restart the computer. For computers who 
have standalone MS-DOS, editing the AUTOEXEC.BAT file is probably the 
best solution for adding environment variables.

However, sometimes within Windows, the DOS shell does not correctly see 
the environment variables added by AUTOEXEC.BAT for whatever reason -

The solution for WINE and >= Windows 95 (with DOS removed on 
installation) would be to run the

C:\WINDOWS> regedit.exe

command and set them explicitly in the Windows registry. Go to 
HKEY_CURRENT_USER and expand it, add if it isn't there a folder called 
"Environment" so the path would be

HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Environment

Then within the Environment key you can create or modify system values 
by adding strings whose value parameters are the corresponding 
directory on the hard drive.

Screenshot -> http://www.csounds.com/akbari/csregedit.png



-David



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Date2006-04-26 23:24
From"Steven Yi"
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Addition to manual
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Date2006-04-29 12:03
FromIstvan Varga
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Date2006-04-29 12:47
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Addition to manual
I do like the idea of a single file that one would edit and which  
would contain all the user settings and paths (maybe even a pointer  
to the language of the error messages.)

This would be very easy to teach, show, explain.

And then, generally, the only changes you would make from the gui or  
commandline would be whether you wanted realtime rendering, file  
rendering, or simultaneous

(such as is currently the case with MacCsound)

On Apr 26, 2006, at 6:24 PM, Steven Yi wrote:

> That's a possible solution but I'd say perhaps too complicated for  
> end users.
>
> I'm not sure if this is feasible due to the many ways to set up
> environment variables, but perhaps we should create a GUI app that
> opens up with the Csound variables to edit (with buttons to open up a
> file selector to choose a directory to make it easier)?  Maybe if we
> add a csSettings file that lives in user home or modify .csoundrc to
> allow setting environment variables in a "key=value" format, that
> would make it cross-platform and then not too difficult to make a GUI
> for.  If .csoundrc, then the GUI could also edit the default
> commandline values.  It might be a solution that could satisify all
> parties, whether those who prefer to edit values by text or by GUI.
> The one issue would be making this backwards compatible with .csoundrc
> as it is now.
>
> Having one file to edit environment variables in would be a lot easier
> to support in terms of documentation too.
>
> steven
>
>
> On 4/26/06, David Akbari  wrote:
>>
>> On Apr 26, 2006, at 2:36 PM, Art Hunkins wrote:
>>
>>> On other Windows OS's earlier than XP you set
>>> environment variables in the autoexec.bat file.
>>
>> Actually, after spending some time configuring Csound5 to run  
>> properly
>> in WINE under Linux, (then testing on a spare DX486 running  
>> Windows 95)
>> I have found a potentially better solution for Windows OSes <=  
>> 2000 on
>> the FAT32 filesystem.
>>
>> Consider that editing the AUTOEXEC.BAT file requires that the user
>> either run the batch file or restart the computer. For computers who
>> have standalone MS-DOS, editing the AUTOEXEC.BAT file is probably the
>> best solution for adding environment variables.
>>
>> However, sometimes within Windows, the DOS shell does not  
>> correctly see
>> the environment variables added by AUTOEXEC.BAT for whatever reason -
>>
>> The solution for WINE and >= Windows 95 (with DOS removed on
>> installation) would be to run the
>>
>> C:\WINDOWS> regedit.exe
>>
>> command and set them explicitly in the Windows registry. Go to
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER and expand it, add if it isn't there a folder  
>> called
>> "Environment" so the path would be
>>
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Environment
>>
>> Then within the Environment key you can create or modify system  
>> values
>> by adding strings whose value parameters are the corresponding
>> directory on the hard drive.
>>
>> Screenshot -> http://www.csounds.com/akbari/csregedit.png
>>
>>
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>>
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Date2006-05-01 15:08
FromAndres Cabrera
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Addition to manual
An app that tweaks csound relevant environment variables would be nice,
but why not include this on the front ends?

Cheers,
Andrés

On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 15:24 -0700, Steven Yi wrote:
> That's a possible solution but I'd say perhaps too complicated for end users.
> 
> I'm not sure if this is feasible due to the many ways to set up
> environment variables, but perhaps we should create a GUI app that
> opens up with the Csound variables to edit (with buttons to open up a
> file selector to choose a directory to make it easier)?  Maybe if we
> add a csSettings file that lives in user home or modify .csoundrc to
> allow setting environment variables in a "key=value" format, that
> would make it cross-platform and then not too difficult to make a GUI
> for.  If .csoundrc, then the GUI could also edit the default
> commandline values.  It might be a solution that could satisify all
> parties, whether those who prefer to edit values by text or by GUI. 
> The one issue would be making this backwards compatible with .csoundrc
> as it is now.
> 
> Having one file to edit environment variables in would be a lot easier
> to support in terms of documentation too.
> 
> steven
> 
> 
> On 4/26/06, David Akbari  wrote:
> >
> > On Apr 26, 2006, at 2:36 PM, Art Hunkins wrote:
> >
> > > On other Windows OS's earlier than XP you set
> > > environment variables in the autoexec.bat file.
> >
> > Actually, after spending some time configuring Csound5 to run properly
> > in WINE under Linux, (then testing on a spare DX486 running Windows 95)
> > I have found a potentially better solution for Windows OSes <= 2000 on
> > the FAT32 filesystem.
> >
> > Consider that editing the AUTOEXEC.BAT file requires that the user
> > either run the batch file or restart the computer. For computers who
> > have standalone MS-DOS, editing the AUTOEXEC.BAT file is probably the
> > best solution for adding environment variables.
> >
> > However, sometimes within Windows, the DOS shell does not correctly see
> > the environment variables added by AUTOEXEC.BAT for whatever reason -
> >
> > The solution for WINE and >= Windows 95 (with DOS removed on
> > installation) would be to run the
> >
> > C:\WINDOWS> regedit.exe
> >
> > command and set them explicitly in the Windows registry. Go to
> > HKEY_CURRENT_USER and expand it, add if it isn't there a folder called
> > "Environment" so the path would be
> >
> > HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Environment
> >
> > Then within the Environment key you can create or modify system values
> > by adding strings whose value parameters are the corresponding
> > directory on the hard drive.
> >
> > Screenshot -> http://www.csounds.com/akbari/csregedit.png
> >
> >
> >
> > -David
> >
> >
> >
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Date2006-05-01 16:54
Fromjpff@codemist.co.uk
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] Addition to manual
Winsound does set/maintain environment variables.  Possible not as many
as is now needed but the changes are simple.
==John ffitch


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