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Date2013-02-25 13:45
Fromjohn ffitch
Subject[Cs-dev] csound6 alpha
We have placed sources and an OS10.6 binary on SF in a directory
csound6.  In addition there is a copy of the file What_is_New.txt
which indicates the major changes, what we know does not work, and
some notes on what needs testing.  The file OpsToTest is a (long) list
of opcodes that need checking still work in normal and
--sample-accurate node.  I will update this as it becomes clear what
works.   The last data file is our in-action notes todo.txt which
gives some idea of where we are now and what remains.

I must repeat, DO NOT USE FOR PRODUCTION as we may have messed up
anything.

Anyone who is willing to test please report via the csound6 bug
reporting system, and possibly on this list if you wish.

==John ffitch

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Date2013-02-25 14:00
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound6 alpha
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Just downloaded. Will start testing tonight. 
 
Best,
P

On 25 February 2013 13:45, john ffitch <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:
We have placed sources and an OS10.6 binary on SF in a directory
csound6.  In addition there is a copy of the file What_is_New.txt
which indicates the major changes, what we know does not work, and
some notes on what needs testing.  The file OpsToTest is a (long) list
of opcodes that need checking still work in normal and
--sample-accurate node.  I will update this as it becomes clear what
works.   The last data file is our in-action notes todo.txt which
gives some idea of where we are now and what remains.

I must repeat, DO NOT USE FOR PRODUCTION as we may have messed up
anything.

Anyone who is willing to test please report via the csound6 bug
reporting system, and possibly on this list if you wish.

==John ffitch

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Date2013-02-25 14:17
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound6 alpha
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On OS 10.7.5


I've set OPCODE6DIR to ./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes like this:

peimankhosravi$ export OPCODE6DIR=./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes

I then type in 

peimankhosravi$ echo $OPCODE6DIR 

And get './CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes'

I suspect this is all good. But then I type ./csound and get the following error:

'Library not loaded: /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/CsoundLib64'

Looks like csound is looking for CsoundLib64 elsewhere. 

Thanks
Peiman

On 25 February 2013 14:00, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
Just downloaded. Will start testing tonight. 
 
Best,
P


On 25 February 2013 13:45, john ffitch <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:
We have placed sources and an OS10.6 binary on SF in a directory
csound6.  In addition there is a copy of the file What_is_New.txt
which indicates the major changes, what we know does not work, and
some notes on what needs testing.  The file OpsToTest is a (long) list
of opcodes that need checking still work in normal and
--sample-accurate node.  I will update this as it becomes clear what
works.   The last data file is our in-action notes todo.txt which
gives some idea of where we are now and what remains.

I must repeat, DO NOT USE FOR PRODUCTION as we may have messed up
anything.

Anyone who is willing to test please report via the csound6 bug
reporting system, and possibly on this list if you wish.

==John ffitch

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Date2013-02-25 14:39
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound6 alpha
AttachmentsNone  None  
OK, I will fix the package.
On 25 Feb 2013, at 14:17, peiman khosravi wrote:

On OS 10.7.5


I've set OPCODE6DIR to ./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes like this:

peimankhosravi$ export OPCODE6DIR=./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes

I then type in 

peimankhosravi$ echo $OPCODE6DIR 

And get './CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes'

I suspect this is all good. But then I type ./csound and get the following error:

'Library not loaded: /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/CsoundLib64'

Looks like csound is looking for CsoundLib64 elsewhere. 

Thanks
Peiman

On 25 February 2013 14:00, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
Just downloaded. Will start testing tonight. 
 
Best,
P


On 25 February 2013 13:45, john ffitch <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:
We have placed sources and an OS10.6 binary on SF in a directory
csound6.  In addition there is a copy of the file What_is_New.txt
which indicates the major changes, what we know does not work, and
some notes on what needs testing.  The file OpsToTest is a (long) list
of opcodes that need checking still work in normal and
--sample-accurate node.  I will update this as it becomes clear what
works.   The last data file is our in-action notes todo.txt which
gives some idea of where we are now and what remains.

I must repeat, DO NOT USE FOR PRODUCTION as we may have messed up
anything.

Anyone who is willing to test please report via the csound6 bug
reporting system, and possibly on this list if you wish.

==John ffitch

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Date2013-02-25 14:50
FromOeyvind Brandtsegg
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound6 alpha
AttachmentsNone  None  
Hello,
Will there be windows binaries as well?
I can also test build here but will have more time for actually testing csound if not :-)
best
Oeyvind


2013/2/25 john ffitch <jpff@codemist.co.uk>
We have placed sources and an OS10.6 binary on SF in a directory
csound6.  In addition there is a copy of the file What_is_New.txt
which indicates the major changes, what we know does not work, and
some notes on what needs testing.  The file OpsToTest is a (long) list
of opcodes that need checking still work in normal and
--sample-accurate node.  I will update this as it becomes clear what
works.   The last data file is our in-action notes todo.txt which
gives some idea of where we are now and what remains.

I must repeat, DO NOT USE FOR PRODUCTION as we may have messed up
anything.

Anyone who is willing to test please report via the csound6 bug
reporting system, and possibly on this list if you wish.

==John ffitch

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Date2013-02-25 14:51
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound6 alpha
AttachmentsNone  None  
I've reuploaded the binaries. Hopefully it will work this time.

Victor

On 25 Feb 2013, at 14:39, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

OK, I will fix the package.
On 25 Feb 2013, at 14:17, peiman khosravi wrote:

On OS 10.7.5


I've set OPCODE6DIR to ./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes like this:

peimankhosravi$ export&n bsp;OPCODE6DIR=./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes

I then type in 

peimankhosravi$ echo $OPCODE6DIR 

And get './CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes'

I suspect this is all good. But then I type ./csound and get the following error:

'Library not loaded: /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/CsoundLib64'

Looks like csound is looking for CsoundLib64 elsewhere. 

Thanks
Peiman

On 25 February 2013 14:00, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
Just downloaded. Will start testing tonight. 
 
Best,
P


On 25 February 2013 13:45, john ffitch <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:
We have placed sources and an OS10.6 binary on SF in a directory
csound6.  In addition there is a copy of the file What_is_New.txt
which indicates the major changes, what we know does not work, and
some notes on what needs testing.  The file OpsToTest is a (long) list
of opcodes that need checking still work in normal and
--sample-accurate node.  I will update this as it becomes clear what
works.   The last data file is our in-action notes todo.txt which
gives some idea of where we are now and what remains.

I must repeat, DO NOT USE FOR PRODUCTION as we may have messed up
anything.

Anyone who is willing to test please report via the csound6 bug
reporting system, and possibly on this list if you wish.

==John ffitch

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Date2013-02-25 15:11
FromSteven Yi
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound6 alpha
Hi All,

I've placed an OSX 10.8 zip online.  I haven't had a chance to
coordinate with Victor so I'm not sure exactly how he structured the
tar.gz for 10.6.  For this one, I did a build and ran make install
into a temp directory, which created bin and lib folders.  As the
executables in the bin folder were linked to CsoundLib64.framework
with a relative path, I just copied the framework into that folder for
now.  Also, the opcodes are installed into the
lib/csound/plugins64-6.0 folder. For those testing with this build,
you'll have to set OPCODE6DIR64 to
install_location/lib/csound/plugins64-6.0.  Also to note, this is only
a double precision build.

Thanks!
steven

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Victor Lazzarini
 wrote:
> I've reuploaded the binaries. Hopefully it will work this time.
>
> Victor
>
> On 25 Feb 2013, at 14:39, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>
> OK, I will fix the package.
> On 25 Feb 2013, at 14:17, peiman khosravi wrote:
>
> On OS 10.7.5
>
>
> I've set OPCODE6DIR to ./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes like this:
>
> peimankhosravi$ export OPCODE6DIR=./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes
>
> I then type in
>
> peimankhosravi$ echo $OPCODE6DIR
>
> And get './CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes'
>
> I suspect this is all good. But then I type ./csound and get the following
> error:
>
> 'Library not loaded:
> /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/CsoundLib64'
>
> Looks like csound is looking for CsoundLib64 elsewhere.
>
> Thanks
> Peiman
>
> On 25 February 2013 14:00, peiman khosravi  wrote:
>>
>> Just downloaded. Will start testing tonight.
>>
>> Best,
>> P
>>
>>
>> On 25 February 2013 13:45, john ffitch  wrote:
>>>
>>> We have placed sources and an OS10.6 binary on SF in a directory
>>> csound6.  In addition there is a copy of the file What_is_New.txt
>>> which indicates the major changes, what we know does not work, and
>>> some notes on what needs testing.  The file OpsToTest is a (long) list
>>> of opcodes that need checking still work in normal and
>>> --sample-accurate node.  I will update this as it becomes clear what
>>> works.   The last data file is our in-action notes todo.txt which
>>> gives some idea of where we are now and what remains.
>>>
>>> I must repeat, DO NOT USE FOR PRODUCTION as we may have messed up
>>> anything.
>>>
>>> Anyone who is willing to test please report via the csound6 bug
>>> reporting system, and possibly on this list if you wish.
>>>
>>> ==John ffitch
>>>
>>>
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Date2013-02-25 19:47
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound6 alpha
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Thanks Victor, 

I get the same: 

peimankh:csound6-alpha peimankhosravi$ echo $OPCODE6DIR
./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes
peimankh:csound6-alpha peimankhosravi$ ./csound
dyld: Library not loaded: /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/CsoundLib64
  Referenced from: /Users/peimankhosravi/Downloads/csound6-alpha/./csound
  Reason: image not found
Trace/BPT trap: 5

BUT...
I just made the folder " /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug" and put CsoundLib64.framework in there and it works. It's OK for testing and makes me feel like I'm accessing your computer remotely! 

Best,
Peiman



On 25 February 2013 14:51, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
I've reuploaded the binaries. Hopefully it will work this time.

Victor

On 25 Feb 2013, at 14:39, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

OK, I will fix the package.
On 25 Feb 2013, at 14:17, peiman khosravi wrote:

On OS 10.7.5


I've set OPCODE6DIR to ./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes like this:

peimankhosravi$ export OPCODE6DIR=./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes

I then type in 

peimankhosravi$ echo $OPCODE6DIR 

And get './CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes'

I suspect this is all good. But then I type ./csound and get the following error:

'Library not loaded: /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/CsoundLib64'

Looks like csound is looking for CsoundLib64 elsewhere. 

Thanks
Peiman

On 25 February 2013 14:00, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
Just downloaded. Will start testing tonight. 
 
Best,
P


On 25 February 2013 13:45, john ffitch <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:
We have placed sources and an OS10.6 binary on SF in a directory
csound6.  In addition there is a copy of the file What_is_New.txt
which indicates the major changes, what we know does not work, and
some notes on what needs testing.  The file OpsToTest is a (long) list
of opcodes that need checking still work in normal and
--sample-accurate node.  I will update this as it becomes clear what
works.   The last data file is our in-action notes todo.txt which
gives some idea of where we are now and what remains.

I must repeat, DO NOT USE FOR PRODUCTION as we may have messed up
anything.

Anyone who is willing to test please report via the csound6 bug
reporting system, and possibly on this list if you wish.

==John ffitch

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Date2013-02-25 21:02
FromVictor
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound6 alpha
AttachmentsNone  None  
Sorry, I think I uploaded the wrong files. I will fix it tomorrow. Sorry for the mistake.

Victor

On 25 Feb 2013, at 19:47, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Victor, 

I get the same: 

peimankh:csound6-alpha peimankhosravi$ echo $OPCODE6DIR
./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes
peimankh:csound6-alpha peimankhosravi$ ./csound
dyld: Library not loaded: /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/CsoundLib64
  Referenced from: /Users/peimankhosravi/Downloads/csound6-alpha/./csound
  Reason: image not found
Trace/BPT trap: 5

BUT...
I just made the folder " /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug" and put CsoundLib64.framework in there and it works. It's OK for testing and makes me feel like I'm accessing your computer remotely! 

Best,
Peiman



On 25 February 2013 14:51, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
I've reuploaded the binaries. Hopefully it will work this time.

Victor

On 25 Feb 2013, at 14:39, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

OK, I will fix the package.
On 25 Feb 2013, at 14:17, peiman khosravi wrote:

On OS 10.7.5


I've set OPCODE6DIR to ./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes like this:

peimankhosravi$ export OPCODE6DIR=./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes

I then type in 

peimankhosravi$ echo $OPCODE6DIR 

And get './CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes'

I suspect this is all good. But then I type ./csound and get the following error:

'Library not loaded: /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/CsoundLib64'

Looks like csound is looking for CsoundLib64 elsewhere. 

Thanks
Peiman

On 25 February 2013 14:00, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
Just downloaded. Will start testing tonight. 
 
Best,
P


On 25 February 2013 13:45, john ffitch <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:
We have placed sources and an OS10.6 binary on SF in a directory
csound6.  In addition there is a copy of the file What_is_New.txt
which indicates the major changes, what we know does not work, and
some notes on what needs testing.  The file OpsToTest is a (long) list
of opcodes that need checking still work in normal and
--sample-accurate node.  I will update this as it becomes clear what
works.   The last data file is our in-action notes todo.txt which
gives some idea of where we are now and what remains.

I must repeat, DO NOT USE FOR PRODUCTION as we may have messed up
anything.

Anyone who is willing to test please report via the csound6 bug
reporting system, and possibly on this list if you wish.

==John ffitch

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Date2013-02-25 21:07
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound6 alpha
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It's fine. It works for now. 

Thanks
Peiman

On 25 February 2013 21:02, Victor <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
Sorry, I think I uploaded the wrong files. I will fix it tomorrow. Sorry for the mistake.

Victor

On 25 Feb 2013, at 19:47, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Victor, 

I get the same: 

peimankh:csound6-alpha peimankhosravi$ echo $OPCODE6DIR
./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes
peimankh:csound6-alpha peimankhosravi$ ./csound
dyld: Library not loaded: /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/CsoundLib64
  Referenced from: /Users/peimankhosravi/Downloads/csound6-alpha/./csound
  Reason: image not found
Trace/BPT trap: 5

BUT...
I just made the folder " /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug" and put CsoundLib64.framework in there and it works. It's OK for testing and makes me feel like I'm accessing your computer remotely! 

Best,
Peiman



On 25 February 2013 14:51, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
I've reuploaded the binaries. Hopefully it will work this time.

Victor

On 25 Feb 2013, at 14:39, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

OK, I will fix the package.
On 25 Feb 2013, at 14:17, peiman khosravi wrote:

On OS 10.7.5


I've set OPCODE6DIR to ./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes like this:

peimankhosravi$ export OPCODE6DIR=./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes

I then type in 

peimankhosravi$ echo $OPCODE6DIR 

And get './CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes'

I suspect this is all good. But then I type ./csound and get the following error:

'Library not loaded: /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/CsoundLib64'

Looks like csound is looking for CsoundLib64 elsewhere. 

Thanks
Peiman

On 25 February 2013 14:00, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
Just downloaded. Will start testing tonight. 
 
Best,
P


On 25 February 2013 13:45, john ffitch <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:
We have placed sources and an OS10.6 binary on SF in a directory
csound6.  In addition there is a copy of the file What_is_New.txt
which indicates the major changes, what we know does not work, and
some notes on what needs testing.  The file OpsToTest is a (long) list
of opcodes that need checking still work in normal and
--sample-accurate node.  I will update this as it becomes clear what
works.   The last data file is our in-action notes todo.txt which
gives some idea of where we are now and what remains.

I must repeat, DO NOT USE FOR PRODUCTION as we may have messed up
anything.

Anyone who is willing to test please report via the csound6 bug
reporting system, and possibly on this list if you wish.

==John ffitch

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Date2013-02-26 10:03
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound6 alpha
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I've replaced the binaries now.

Victor
On 25 Feb 2013, at 21:07, peiman khosravi wrote:

It's fine. It works for now. 

Thanks
Peiman

On 25 February 2013 21:02, Victor <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
Sorry, I think I uploaded the wrong files. I will fix it tomorrow. Sorry for the mistake.

Victor

On 25 Feb 2013, at 19:47, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Victor, 

I get the same: 

peimankh:csound6-alpha peimankhosravi$ echo $OPCODE6DIR
./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes
peimankh:csound6-alpha peimankhosravi$ ./csound
dyld: Library not loaded: /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/CsoundLib64
  Referenced from: /Users/peimankhosravi/Downloads/csound6-alpha/./csound
  Reason: image not found
Trace/BPT trap: 5

BUT...
I just made the folder " /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug" and put CsoundLib64.framework in there and it works. It's OK for testing and makes me feel like I'm accessing your computer remotely! 

Best,
Peiman



On 25 February 2013 14:51, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
I've reuploaded the binaries. Hopefully it will work this time.

Victor

On 25 Feb 2013, at 14:39, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

OK, I will fix the package.
On 25 Feb 2013, at 14:17, peiman khosravi wrote:

On OS 10.7.5


I've set OPCODE6DIR to ./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes like this:

peimankhosravi$ export OPCODE6DIR=./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes

I then type in 

peimankhosravi$ echo $OPCODE6DIR 

And get './CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes'

I suspect this is all good. But then I type ./csound and get the following error:

'Library not loaded: /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/CsoundLib64'

Looks like csound is looking for CsoundLib64 elsewhere. 

Thanks
Peiman

On 25 February 2013 14:00, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
Just downloaded. Will start testing tonight. 
 
Best,
P


On 25 February 2013 13:45, john ffitch <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:
We have placed sources and an OS10.6 binary on SF in a directory
csound6.  In addition there is a copy of the file What_is_New.txt
which indicates the major changes, what we know does not work, and
some notes on what needs testing.  The file OpsToTest is a (long) list
of opcodes that need checking still work in normal and
--sample-accurate node.  I will update this as it becomes clear what
works.   The last data file is our in-action notes todo.txt which
gives some idea of where we are now and what remains.

I must repeat, DO NOT USE FOR PRODUCTION as we may have messed up
anything.

Anyone who is willing to test please report via the csound6 bug
reporting system, and possibly on this list if you wish.

==John ffitch

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Date2013-02-26 10:07
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound6 alpha
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Thank you.

P

On 26 February 2013 10:03, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
I've replaced the binaries now.

Victor

On 25 Feb 2013, at 21:07, peiman khosravi wrote:

It's fine. It works for now. 

Thanks
Peiman

On 25 February 2013 21:02, Victor <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
Sorry, I think I uploaded the wrong files. I will fix it tomorrow. Sorry for the mistake.

Victor

On 25 Feb 2013, at 19:47, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Victor, 

I get the same: 

peimankh:csound6-alpha peimankhosravi$ echo $OPCODE6DIR
./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes
peimankh:csound6-alpha peimankhosravi$ ./csound
dyld: Library not loaded: /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/CsoundLib64
  Referenced from: /Users/peimankhosravi/Downloads/csound6-alpha/./csound
  Reason: image not found
Trace/BPT trap: 5

BUT...
I just made the folder " /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug" and put CsoundLib64.framework in there and it works. It's OK for testing and makes me feel like I'm accessing your computer remotely! 

Best,
Peiman



On 25 February 2013 14:51, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
I've reuploaded the binaries. Hopefully it will work this time.

Victor

On 25 Feb 2013, at 14:39, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

OK, I will fix the package.
On 25 Feb 2013, at 14:17, peiman khosravi wrote:

On OS 10.7.5


I've set OPCODE6DIR to ./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes like this:

peimankhosravi$ export OPCODE6DIR=./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes

I then type in 

peimankhosravi$ echo $OPCODE6DIR 

And get './CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes'

I suspect this is all good. But then I type ./csound and get the following error:

'Library not loaded: /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/CsoundLib64'

Looks like csound is looking for CsoundLib64 elsewhere. 

Thanks
Peiman

On 25 February 2013 14:00, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
Just downloaded. Will start testing tonight. 
 
Best,
P


On 25 February 2013 13:45, john ffitch <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:
We have placed sources and an OS10.6 binary on SF in a directory
csound6.  In addition there is a copy of the file What_is_New.txt
which indicates the major changes, what we know does not work, and
some notes on what needs testing.  The file OpsToTest is a (long) list
of opcodes that need checking still work in normal and
--sample-accurate node.  I will update this as it becomes clear what
works.   The last data file is our in-action notes todo.txt which
gives some idea of where we are now and what remains.

I must repeat, DO NOT USE FOR PRODUCTION as we may have messed up
anything.

Anyone who is willing to test please report via the csound6 bug
reporting system, and possibly on this list if you wish.

==John ffitch

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Date2013-02-26 10:22
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound6 alpha
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Yes it's working. 

Best,
Peiman

On 26 February 2013 10:07, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you.

P


On 26 February 2013 10:03, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
I've replaced the binaries now.

Victor

On 25 Feb 2013, at 21:07, peiman khosravi wrote:

It's fine. It works for now. 

Thanks
Peiman

On 25 February 2013 21:02, Victor <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
Sorry, I think I uploaded the wrong files. I will fix it tomorrow. Sorry for the mistake.

Victor

On 25 Feb 2013, at 19:47, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Victor, 

I get the same: 

peimankh:csound6-alpha peimankhosravi$ echo $OPCODE6DIR
./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes
peimankh:csound6-alpha peimankhosravi$ ./csound
dyld: Library not loaded: /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/CsoundLib64
  Referenced from: /Users/peimankhosravi/Downloads/csound6-alpha/./csound
  Reason: image not found
Trace/BPT trap: 5

BUT...
I just made the folder " /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug" and put CsoundLib64.framework in there and it works. It's OK for testing and makes me feel like I'm accessing your computer remotely! 

Best,
Peiman



On 25 February 2013 14:51, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
I've reuploaded the binaries. Hopefully it will work this time.

Victor

On 25 Feb 2013, at 14:39, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

OK, I will fix the package.
On 25 Feb 2013, at 14:17, peiman khosravi wrote:

On OS 10.7.5


I've set OPCODE6DIR to ./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes like this:

peimankhosravi$ export OPCODE6DIR=./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes

I then type in 

peimankhosravi$ echo $OPCODE6DIR 

And get './CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes'

I suspect this is all good. But then I type ./csound and get the following error:

'Library not loaded: /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/CsoundLib64'

Looks like csound is looking for CsoundLib64 elsewhere. 

Thanks
Peiman

On 25 February 2013 14:00, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
Just downloaded. Will start testing tonight. 
 
Best,
P


On 25 February 2013 13:45, john ffitch <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:
We have placed sources and an OS10.6 binary on SF in a directory
csound6.  In addition there is a copy of the file What_is_New.txt
which indicates the major changes, what we know does not work, and
some notes on what needs testing.  The file OpsToTest is a (long) list
of opcodes that need checking still work in normal and
--sample-accurate node.  I will update this as it becomes clear what
works.   The last data file is our in-action notes todo.txt which
gives some idea of where we are now and what remains.

I must repeat, DO NOT USE FOR PRODUCTION as we may have messed up
anything.

Anyone who is willing to test please report via the csound6 bug
reporting system, and possibly on this list if you wish.

==John ffitch

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Date2013-02-26 11:22
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound6 alpha
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I'm just going through all the untested upcodes one by one. Will send a report in a week or so but so far so good!

Best,
Peiman 

On 26 February 2013 10:22, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes it's working. 

Best,
Peiman


On 26 February 2013 10:07, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you.

P


On 26 February 2013 10:03, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
I've replaced the binaries now.

Victor

On 25 Feb 2013, at 21:07, peiman khosravi wrote:

It's fine. It works for now. 

Thanks
Peiman

On 25 February 2013 21:02, Victor <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
Sorry, I think I uploaded the wrong files. I will fix it tomorrow. Sorry for the mistake.

Victor

On 25 Feb 2013, at 19:47, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Victor, 

I get the same: 

peimankh:csound6-alpha peimankhosravi$ echo $OPCODE6DIR
./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes
peimankh:csound6-alpha peimankhosravi$ ./csound
dyld: Library not loaded: /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/CsoundLib64
  Referenced from: /Users/peimankhosravi/Downloads/csound6-alpha/./csound
  Reason: image not found
Trace/BPT trap: 5

BUT...
I just made the folder " /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug" and put CsoundLib64.framework in there and it works. It's OK for testing and makes me feel like I'm accessing your computer remotely! 

Best,
Peiman



On 25 February 2013 14:51, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
I've reuploaded the binaries. Hopefully it will work this time.

Victor

On 25 Feb 2013, at 14:39, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

OK, I will fix the package.
On 25 Feb 2013, at 14:17, peiman khosravi wrote:

On OS 10.7.5


I've set OPCODE6DIR to ./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes like this:

peimankhosravi$ export OPCODE6DIR=./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes

I then type in 

peimankhosravi$ echo $OPCODE6DIR 

And get './CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes'

I suspect this is all good. But then I type ./csound and get the following error:

'Library not loaded: /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/CsoundLib64'

Looks like csound is looking for CsoundLib64 elsewhere. 

Thanks
Peiman

On 25 February 2013 14:00, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
Just downloaded. Will start testing tonight. 
 
Best,
P


On 25 February 2013 13:45, john ffitch <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:
We have placed sources and an OS10.6 binary on SF in a directory
csound6.  In addition there is a copy of the file What_is_New.txt
which indicates the major changes, what we know does not work, and
some notes on what needs testing.  The file OpsToTest is a (long) list
of opcodes that need checking still work in normal and
--sample-accurate node.  I will update this as it becomes clear what
works.   The last data file is our in-action notes todo.txt which
gives some idea of where we are now and what remains.

I must repeat, DO NOT USE FOR PRODUCTION as we may have messed up
anything.

Anyone who is willing to test please report via the csound6 bug
reporting system, and possibly on this list if you wish.

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Date2013-02-26 11:32
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound6 alpha
AttachmentsNone  None  
ATSadd     
ATSaddnz  
ATScross   
ATSsinnoi  

Checked with normal and --sample-accurate. 


On 26 February 2013 11:22, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm just going through all the untested upcodes one by one. Will send a report in a week or so but so far so good!

Best,
Peiman 


On 26 February 2013 10:22, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes it's working. 

Best,
Peiman


On 26 February 2013 10:07, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you.

P


On 26 February 2013 10:03, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
I've replaced the binaries now.

Victor

On 25 Feb 2013, at 21:07, peiman khosravi wrote:

It's fine. It works for now. 

Thanks
Peiman

On 25 February 2013 21:02, Victor <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
Sorry, I think I uploaded the wrong files. I will fix it tomorrow. Sorry for the mistake.

Victor

On 25 Feb 2013, at 19:47, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Victor, 

I get the same: 

peimankh:csound6-alpha peimankhosravi$ echo $OPCODE6DIR
./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes
peimankh:csound6-alpha peimankhosravi$ ./csound
dyld: Library not loaded: /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/CsoundLib64
  Referenced from: /Users/peimankhosravi/Downloads/csound6-alpha/./csound
  Reason: image not found
Trace/BPT trap: 5

BUT...
I just made the folder " /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug" and put CsoundLib64.framework in there and it works. It's OK for testing and makes me feel like I'm accessing your computer remotely! 

Best,
Peiman



On 25 February 2013 14:51, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
I've reuploaded the binaries. Hopefully it will work this time.

Victor

On 25 Feb 2013, at 14:39, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

OK, I will fix the package.
On 25 Feb 2013, at 14:17, peiman khosravi wrote:

On OS 10.7.5


I've set OPCODE6DIR to ./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes like this:

peimankhosravi$ export OPCODE6DIR=./CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes

I then type in 

peimankhosravi$ echo $OPCODE6DIR 

And get './CsoundLib64.framework/Resources/Opcodes'

I suspect this is all good. But then I type ./csound and get the following error:

'Library not loaded: /Users/victor/src/csound6/debug/CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0/CsoundLib64'

Looks like csound is looking for CsoundLib64 elsewhere. 

Thanks
Peiman

On 25 February 2013 14:00, peiman khosravi <peimankhosravi@gmail.com> wrote:
Just downloaded. Will start testing tonight. 
 
Best,
P


On 25 February 2013 13:45, john ffitch <jpff@codemist.co.uk> wrote:
We have placed sources and an OS10.6 binary on SF in a directory
csound6.  In addition there is a copy of the file What_is_New.txt
which indicates the major changes, what we know does not work, and
some notes on what needs testing.  The file OpsToTest is a (long) list
of opcodes that need checking still work in normal and
--sample-accurate node.  I will update this as it becomes clear what
works.   The last data file is our in-action notes todo.txt which
gives some idea of where we are now and what remains.

I must repeat, DO NOT USE FOR PRODUCTION as we may have messed up
anything.

Anyone who is willing to test please report via the csound6 bug
reporting system, and possibly on this list if you wish.

==John ffitch

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Date2013-02-26 14:36
Fromjpff@cs.bath.ac.uk
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound6 alpha
Thank you -- noted in my files.  WIll update soon.

> ATSadd
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Date2013-02-28 00:48
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound6 alpha
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I've tested: 

abs
ampdb
ampdbfs
atone.csd

All good. 

I'm not sure if this is significant but when I use the --sample-accurate flag I get this printed out in the terminal:

new alloc for instr 1:
>>>> no_end=8 (27563,16,441000.000000,0)

 
P


On 26 February 2013 14:36, <jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk> wrote:
Thank you -- noted in my files.  WIll update soon.

> ATSadd
> ATSaddnz
> ATScross
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>
> Checked with normal and --sample-accurate.




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Date2013-02-28 00:54
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound6 alpha
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That is tracing we forgot to remove. I've removed it already in GIT.
On 28 Feb 2013, at 00:48, peiman khosravi wrote:

I've tested: 

abs
ampdb
ampdbfs
atone.csd

All good. 

I'm not sure if this is significant but when I use the --sample-accurate flag I get this printed out in the terminal:

new alloc for instr 1:
>>>> no_end=8 (27563,16,441000.000000,0)

 
P


On 26 February 2013 14:36, <jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk> wrote:
Thank you -- noted in my files.  WIll update soon.

> ATSadd
> ATSaddnz
> ATScross
> ATSsinnoi
>
> Checked with normal and --sample-accurate.




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Date2013-02-28 01:12
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound6 alpha
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OK, thanks Victor. 

barmodel
bbcuts      
betarand   
bexprnd  

Also working fine. 

Best,
Peiman

On 28 February 2013 00:54, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@nuim.ie> wrote:
That is tracing we forgot to remove. I've removed it already in GIT.

On 28 Feb 2013, at 00:48, peiman khosravi wrote:

I've tested: 

abs
ampdb
ampdbfs
atone.csd

All good. 

I'm not sure if this is significant but when I use the --sample-accurate flag I get this printed out in the terminal:

new alloc for instr 1:
>>>> no_end=8 (27563,16,441000.000000,0)

 
P


On 26 February 2013 14:36, <jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk> wrote:
Thank you -- noted in my files.  WIll update soon.

> ATSadd
> ATSaddnz
> ATScross
> ATSsinnoi
>
> Checked with normal and --sample-accurate.




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Date2013-02-28 08:42
Fromjpff@cs.bath.ac.uk
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound6 alpha
> I've tested:
>
> abs
> ampdb
> ampdbfs
> atone.csd
>
> All good.

Thanks

>
> I'm not sure if this is significant but when I use the --sample-accurate
> flag I get this printed out in the terminal:
>
> new alloc for instr 1:
>>>>> no_end=8 (27563,16,441000.000000,0)

I have removed the extra tracing -- it is not significant

>
>
> P



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Date2013-02-28 23:22
Frompeiman khosravi
SubjectRe: [Cs-dev] csound6 alpha
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barmodel
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betarand
bexprnd
bformdec  
bformdec1
bformenc  
bformenc1
biquada    
bqrez       
butterbr    
butterhp    

All working.

Best,
Peiman


On 28 February 2013 08:42, <jpff@cs.bath.ac.uk> wrote:
> I've tested:
>
> abs
> ampdb
> ampdbfs
> atone.csd
>
> All good.

Thanks

>
> I'm not sure if this is significant but when I use the --sample-accurate
> flag I get this printed out in the terminal:
>
> new alloc for instr 1:
>>>>> no_end=8 (27563,16,441000.000000,0)

I have removed the extra tracing -- it is not significant

>
>
> P



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