That sounds OK, but two things:

1. Work on 5.10 can only really start after the full release.
2. Can we have a list beta tester volunteers for each platform?

Victor
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Oeyvind Brandtsegg" 
To: "Developer discussions" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] sourceforge Downloads info


>I do agree that beta releases are a good idea,
> so new users can safely install a slightly older and stable version.
> This will ease the way for new and inexperienced users. Currently,
> even some of the older releases do have some quirks (if I remember
> correctly), but once the release schedule is on track we will always
> have a "latest stable" release to recommend to new users.
>
> I would propose a month of prior notice for a beta release, and a
> month of beta testing. This admittedly slows down the release cycle,
> but will allow everyone ample time to finish and test the releases.
> So, as an example, we could say:
>
> (sometime this week, continuing until May 1st)
> Csound 5.09 "alpha versions for different platforms as the become ready"
>
> (May 1st)
> Csound 5.09 "beta release for all platforms, all at the same time"
>
> (June 1st)
> Csound 5.09 official release
>
> Meanwhile, work on 5.10 will most probably continue on the side of the
> release schedule. Is this going to create a lot of trouble with CVS
> forking and things like that ? Sorry if there are issues involved that
> I do not understand fully.
> The result of my proposition will create a time lag of 2 months for
> new features (from initial implementation until official release), but
> hey, it's only 2 months ... and meanwhile the official Csound release
> can be stable and predictable for all platforms.
>
> best
> Oeyvind
>
> 2008/3/24, Michael Gogins :
>> The beta was valuable in my view, but it did not last long enough. More 
>> timer for user feedback, i.e. a month or so, would have been much more 
>> useful. After all, the only real reason for a beta release is just that: 
>> get it out to users and use their feedback to get rid of bugs.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: jpff 
>> >Sent: Mar 24, 2008 3:57 AM
>> >To: Developer discussions 
>> >Cc: csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] sourceforge Downloads info
>> >
>> >In this case the Linux beta installer had a serious problem, which was
>> >not noticed until the real release.  From my pov the beta achieved
>> >noting but additional work.
>> >==John ffitch
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Happy to oblige on intel OSX.
Am likely to be using latest or latest but one version of other sw,  
especially python,
whilst I'm buried for the next year in current project.

David
On 26/03/2008, at 8:06 AM, victor wrote:
> That sounds OK, but two things:
>
> 1. Work on 5.10 can only really start after the full release.
> 2. Can we have a list beta tester volunteers for each platform?
>
> Victor
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Oeyvind Brandtsegg" 
> To: "Developer discussions" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 1:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] sourceforge Downloads info
>
>
>> I do agree that beta releases are a good idea,
>> so new users can safely install a slightly older and stable version.
>> This will ease the way for new and inexperienced users. Currently,
>> even some of the older releases do have some quirks (if I remember
>> correctly), but once the release schedule is on track we will always
>> have a "latest stable" release to recommend to new users.
>>
>> I would propose a month of prior notice for a beta release, and a
>> month of beta testing. This admittedly slows down the release cycle,
>> but will allow everyone ample time to finish and test the releases.
>> So, as an example, we could say:
>>
>> (sometime this week, continuing until May 1st)
>> Csound 5.09 "alpha versions for different platforms as the become  
>> ready"
>>
>> (May 1st)
>> Csound 5.09 "beta release for all platforms, all at the same time"
>>
>> (June 1st)
>> Csound 5.09 official release
>>
>> Meanwhile, work on 5.10 will most probably continue on the side of  
>> the
>> release schedule. Is this going to create a lot of trouble with CVS
>> forking and things like that ? Sorry if there are issues involved  
>> that
>> I do not understand fully.
>> The result of my proposition will create a time lag of 2 months for
>> new features (from initial implementation until official release),  
>> but
>> hey, it's only 2 months ... and meanwhile the official Csound release
>> can be stable and predictable for all platforms.
>>
>> best
>> Oeyvind
>>
>> 2008/3/24, Michael Gogins :
>>> The beta was valuable in my view, but it did not last long enough.  
>>> More
>>> timer for user feedback, i.e. a month or so, would have been much  
>>> more
>>> useful. After all, the only real reason for a beta release is just  
>>> that:
>>> get it out to users and use their feedback to get rid of bugs.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Mike

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