Hi All,

I was working with Victor earlier today on the "make install" target
for OSX.  We ended up modifying things such that;

1) Opcode libraries are once again built into the main build
directory, not as a sub-folder of the framework
2) Removed copying of external libs into the framework during build time.
3) Updated the framework install location to be in ~/Library/Frameworks
4) Updated the install location of opcodes to be where the framework
will be installed
5) Updated the python install dir to be /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages
6) Updated the java install dir to be /Library/Java/Extensions
7) Updated the default OPCODE6DIR64 to point to the Opcodes folder
held within ~/Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework

For the above, it should now be sufficient to run "make; sudo make
install" and have Csound 6 installed into your system, with everything
set to load all built plugins, run with Python, and run with Java.

We will be looking at the installer next, which will likely maintain
installation of the Framework into the system's /Library/Frameworks,
as well do the external lib copying, modification of install_name,
etc.

For those building Csound 6 on OSX, the changes today should hopefully
make using Csound as your primary Csound work well now.  Also, note
that this will co-exist with Csound 5's framework, but will overwrite
csound executables in /usr/local/bin.  If you want to maintain both
copies, you can do something like:

cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=~/temp  ../csound6

when you build such that when you do make install, the lib and bin
folders that would normally go into /usr/local go into ~/temp.

Thanks!
steven

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Maybe it's a good idea to rename the csound 6 framework so 5 and 6 can be installed side by side?

Cheers,
Andres

Hi Andres,

The idea at the moment is that for the installer, it will copy in the
CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/6.0 part of the framework, and update
the CsoundLib64.framework/Versions/Current symlink to point to 6.0.
Apple has its own versioning mechanism for Frameworks, and I think the
way this is set to go forward, using the same lib name but using the
Versions folders, this seems like the way to go.  Does this sound
alright to you?

steven

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Andres Cabrera  wrote:
> Maybe it's a good idea to rename the csound 6 framework so 5 and 6 can be
> installed side by side?
>
> Cheers,
> Andres
>
> On May 7, 2013 11:36 AM, "Steven Yi"  wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I was working with Victor earlier today on the "make install" target
>> for OSX.  We ended up modifying things such that;
>>
>> 1) Opcode libraries are once again built into the main build
>> directory, not as a sub-folder of the framework
>> 2) Removed copying of external libs into the framework during build time.
>> 3) Updated the framework install location to be in ~/Library/Frameworks
>> 4) Updated the install location of opcodes to be where the framework
>> will be installed
>> 5) Updated the python install dir to be /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages
>> 6) Updated the java install dir to be /Library/Java/Extensions
>> 7) Updated the default OPCODE6DIR64 to point to the Opcodes folder
>> held within ~/Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework
>>
>> For the above, it should now be sufficient to run "make; sudo make
>> install" and have Csound 6 installed into your system, with everything
>> set to load all built plugins, run with Python, and run with Java.
>>
>> We will be looking at the installer next, which will likely maintain
>> installation of the Framework into the system's /Library/Frameworks,
>> as well do the external lib copying, modification of install_name,
>> etc.
>>
>> For those building Csound 6 on OSX, the changes today should hopefully
>> make using Csound as your primary Csound work well now.  Also, note
>> that this will co-exist with Csound 5's framework, but will overwrite
>> csound executables in /usr/local/bin.  If you want to maintain both
>> copies, you can do something like:
>>
>> cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=~/temp  ../csound6
>>
>> when you build such that when you do make install, the lib and bin
>> folders that would normally go into /usr/local go into ~/temp.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> steven
>>
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Hi Jake,

I think the executable name is a separate, but equally as important
question, and is a cross-platform question.  I think with python,
there's usually things like python2.5, python2.7, python3, etc. and
there is a symlink for "python" that points to one of them (unless
you're on windows which does not have symlinks...).  Csound has
traditionally just assumed the latest would be used.  This makes sense
as newer csound versions are always (fingers crossed) going to be
backwards compatible with older ones, unlike python3 and python 2.x.
If I remember correctly, I think the Java build tool maven also
switched from the executable "maven" to "mvn" for the 2.x series, but
3.x uses "mvn" too as it is compatible with maven 2 projects, but 2.x
is not compatible with 1.x.

My vote is to continue with just "csound" but finally do the switch to
make all executables default to the double version.  I think then we
could provide a "csound32" if you need to run with float precision.
(Essentially this flips the csound 5 convention of "csound" for float
and "csound64" for double).

steven

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Jacob Joaquin  wrote:
> Not sure if this is what you mean, but I would personally prefer if the
> executable was named csound6 so I can use both 5 and 6. This is how python3
> works.
>
>
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Andres Cabrera 
> wrote:
>>
>> Maybe it's a good idea to rename the csound 6 framework so 5 and 6 can be
>> installed side by side?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andres
>>
>> On May 7, 2013 11:36 AM, "Steven Yi"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I was working with Victor earlier today on the "make install" target
>>> for OSX.  We ended up modifying things such that;
>>>
>>> 1) Opcode libraries are once again built into the main build
>>> directory, not as a sub-folder of the framework
>>> 2) Removed copying of external libs into the framework during build time.
>>> 3) Updated the framework install location to be in ~/Library/Frameworks
>>> 4) Updated the install location of opcodes to be where the framework
>>> will be installed
>>> 5) Updated the python install dir to be /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages
>>> 6) Updated the java install dir to be /Library/Java/Extensions
>>> 7) Updated the default OPCODE6DIR64 to point to the Opcodes folder
>>> held within ~/Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework
>>>
>>> For the above, it should now be sufficient to run "make; sudo make
>>> install" and have Csound 6 installed into your system, with everything
>>> set to load all built plugins, run with Python, and run with Java.
>>>
>>> We will be looking at the installer next, which will likely maintain
>>> installation of the Framework into the system's /Library/Frameworks,
>>> as well do the external lib copying, modification of install_name,
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> For those building Csound 6 on OSX, the changes today should hopefully
>>> make using Csound as your primary Csound work well now.  Also, note
>>> that this will co-exist with Csound 5's framework, but will overwrite
>>> csound executables in /usr/local/bin.  If you want to maintain both
>>> copies, you can do something like:
>>>
>>> cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=~/temp  ../csound6
>>>
>>> when you build such that when you do make install, the lib and bin
>>> folders that would normally go into /usr/local go into ~/temp.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> steven
>>>
>>>
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Just read Victor's replies, he pretty much said what I was trying to
say but in much less words. :)

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
> Hi Jake,
>
> I think the executable name is a separate, but equally as important
> question, and is a cross-platform question.  I think with python,
> there's usually things like python2.5, python2.7, python3, etc. and
> there is a symlink for "python" that points to one of them (unless
> you're on windows which does not have symlinks...).  Csound has
> traditionally just assumed the latest would be used.  This makes sense
> as newer csound versions are always (fingers crossed) going to be
> backwards compatible with older ones, unlike python3 and python 2.x.
> If I remember correctly, I think the Java build tool maven also
> switched from the executable "maven" to "mvn" for the 2.x series, but
> 3.x uses "mvn" too as it is compatible with maven 2 projects, but 2.x
> is not compatible with 1.x.
>
> My vote is to continue with just "csound" but finally do the switch to
> make all executables default to the double version.  I think then we
> could provide a "csound32" if you need to run with float precision.
> (Essentially this flips the csound 5 convention of "csound" for float
> and "csound64" for double).
>
> steven
>
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Jacob Joaquin  wrote:
>> Not sure if this is what you mean, but I would personally prefer if the
>> executable was named csound6 so I can use both 5 and 6. This is how python3
>> works.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Andres Cabrera 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe it's a good idea to rename the csound 6 framework so 5 and 6 can be
>>> installed side by side?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Andres
>>>
>>> On May 7, 2013 11:36 AM, "Steven Yi"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I was working with Victor earlier today on the "make install" target
>>>> for OSX.  We ended up modifying things such that;
>>>>
>>>> 1) Opcode libraries are once again built into the main build
>>>> directory, not as a sub-folder of the framework
>>>> 2) Removed copying of external libs into the framework during build time.
>>>> 3) Updated the framework install location to be in ~/Library/Frameworks
>>>> 4) Updated the install location of opcodes to be where the framework
>>>> will be installed
>>>> 5) Updated the python install dir to be /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages
>>>> 6) Updated the java install dir to be /Library/Java/Extensions
>>>> 7) Updated the default OPCODE6DIR64 to point to the Opcodes folder
>>>> held within ~/Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework
>>>>
>>>> For the above, it should now be sufficient to run "make; sudo make
>>>> install" and have Csound 6 installed into your system, with everything
>>>> set to load all built plugins, run with Python, and run with Java.
>>>>
>>>> We will be looking at the installer next, which will likely maintain
>>>> installation of the Framework into the system's /Library/Frameworks,
>>>> as well do the external lib copying, modification of install_name,
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> For those building Csound 6 on OSX, the changes today should hopefully
>>>> make using Csound as your primary Csound work well now.  Also, note
>>>> that this will co-exist with Csound 5's framework, but will overwrite
>>>> csound executables in /usr/local/bin.  If you want to maintain both
>>>> copies, you can do something like:
>>>>
>>>> cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=~/temp  ../csound6
>>>>
>>>> when you build such that when you do make install, the lib and bin
>>>> folders that would normally go into /usr/local go into ~/temp.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> steven
>>>>
>>>>
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Ah, glad to be corrected on links in Windows, thanks Mike!

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Michael Gogins  wrote:
> Windows has junctions since Windows 2000 and links since Windows Vista. The
> command is mklink. It think it's pretty much a functional equivalent to a
> Posix ln -s.
>
> FWIW, I do use actually links to switch back and forth between Csound 5 and
> Csound 6 on Windows 7.  I have a csound link that I create either for
> csound5 or csound6, depending on which I want to run.
>
> I agree with csound defaulting to 64 bit samples and csound32 for float
> samples.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
>
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>
>> Just read Victor's replies, he pretty much said what I was trying to
>> say but in much less words. :)
>>
>> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Steven Yi  wrote:
>> > Hi Jake,
>> >
>> > I think the executable name is a separate, but equally as important
>> > question, and is a cross-platform question.  I think with python,
>> > there's usually things like python2.5, python2.7, python3, etc. and
>> > there is a symlink for "python" that points to one of them (unless
>> > you're on windows which does not have symlinks...).  Csound has
>> > traditionally just assumed the latest would be used.  This makes sense
>> > as newer csound versions are always (fingers crossed) going to be
>> > backwards compatible with older ones, unlike python3 and python 2.x.
>> > If I remember correctly, I think the Java build tool maven also
>> > switched from the executable "maven" to "mvn" for the 2.x series, but
>> > 3.x uses "mvn" too as it is compatible with maven 2 projects, but 2.x
>> > is not compatible with 1.x.
>> >
>> > My vote is to continue with just "csound" but finally do the switch to
>> > make all executables default to the double version.  I think then we
>> > could provide a "csound32" if you need to run with float precision.
>> > (Essentially this flips the csound 5 convention of "csound" for float
>> > and "csound64" for double).
>> >
>> > steven
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Jacob Joaquin 
>> > wrote:
>> >> Not sure if this is what you mean, but I would personally prefer if the
>> >> executable was named csound6 so I can use both 5 and 6. This is how
>> >> python3
>> >> works.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Andres Cabrera 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Maybe it's a good idea to rename the csound 6 framework so 5 and 6 can
>> >>> be
>> >>> installed side by side?
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>> Andres
>> >>>
>> >>> On May 7, 2013 11:36 AM, "Steven Yi"  wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi All,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I was working with Victor earlier today on the "make install" target
>> >>>> for OSX.  We ended up modifying things such that;
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 1) Opcode libraries are once again built into the main build
>> >>>> directory, not as a sub-folder of the framework
>> >>>> 2) Removed copying of external libs into the framework during build
>> >>>> time.
>> >>>> 3) Updated the framework install location to be in
>> >>>> ~/Library/Frameworks
>> >>>> 4) Updated the install location of opcodes to be where the framework
>> >>>> will be installed
>> >>>> 5) Updated the python install dir to be
>> >>>> /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages
>> >>>> 6) Updated the java install dir to be /Library/Java/Extensions
>> >>>> 7) Updated the default OPCODE6DIR64 to point to the Opcodes folder
>> >>>> held within ~/Library/Frameworks/CsoundLib64.framework
>> >>>>
>> >>>> For the above, it should now be sufficient to run "make; sudo make
>> >>>> install" and have Csound 6 installed into your system, with
>> >>>> everything
>> >>>> set to load all built plugins, run with Python, and run with Java.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We will be looking at the installer next, which will likely maintain
>> >>>> installation of the Framework into the system's /Library/Frameworks,
>> >>>> as well do the external lib copying, modification of install_name,
>> >>>> etc.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> For those building Csound 6 on OSX, the changes today should
>> >>>> hopefully
>> >>>> make using Csound as your primary Csound work well now.  Also, note
>> >>>> that this will co-exist with Csound 5's framework, but will overwrite
>> >>>> csound executables in /usr/local/bin.  If you want to maintain both
>> >>>> copies, you can do something like:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=~/temp  ../csound6
>> >>>>
>> >>>> when you build such that when you do make install, the lib and bin
>> >>>> folders that would normally go into /usr/local go into ~/temp.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks!
>> >>>> steven
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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