----- Original Message -----
From: "Andres Cabrera" 
To: "Art Hunkins" 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Re: [Csnd] 5.0 WinXP Install Issue


Hi Art.
On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 17:19 -0500, Art Hunkins wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Andres. Your additions, along the lines of Istvan's
> suggestions, are a significant addition.
>
> I might suggest two further tweaks:
>
> 1) Istvan's comment that:
> Note that csound.exe uses 64 bit floats; for single precision, use
> csound32.exe.
> I don't recall this being mentioned elsewhere, and it is otherwise not
> obvious. Perhaps even saying that csound.exe is recommended for
> delayed playback and csound32.exe for realtime would be appropriate -
> or just observing that 32 is slightly faster and 64 more precise would
> help point the way.

I'm not sure if this is mentioned elsewhere, but I was already thinking
about this issue, and it might deserve a more detailed entry, since it
is important that csound is capable of working internally at 64 bits
(which I think other software like pd can't), and the difference in
quality using them is significant. I'll have a look to decide the best
place to put this information. Do you have any suggestions?


> 2) I believe there is an environment variable to point to the Python
> code that must be set if Python is installed. I know it used to be
> that way. I imagine this should be added to the "set" list when the
> user intends to use Python. (I'm sure you know better than I whether
> or not this variable is now required.)

I'm not sure, but I would guess the windows python installer would take
care of this. Can someone confirm if this is necessary?

> Please feel free to do anything or nothing with this info. And, as
> always, thanks for your important contributions to the cause.
>
> Art Hunkins
>
>
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         From: Andres Cabrera
>         To: Art Hunkins
>         Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 2:40 PM
>         Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Re: [Csnd] 5.0 WinXP Install Issue
>
>
>         Hi,
>         I've attached the html page. Things have also changed in the
>         index, but
>         this file should be enough for you until a next release is
>         made.
>
>         Cheers,
>         Andrés
>
>         On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 14:38 -0500, Art Hunkins wrote:
>         > Andres,
>         >
>         > Would you mind sending me a copy of the configuration
>         segment you modified
>         > (in the manual)? I'd like to have a look at your
>         improvements (I'm glad you
>         > took the initiative; it should help a lot).
>         >
>         > Art Hunkins
>         >
>         > ----- Original Message -----
>         > From: "Andres Cabrera" 
>         > To: 
>         > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 1:05 PM
>         > Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Re: [Csnd] 5.0 WinXP Install Issue
>         >
>         >
>         > Hi,
>         > I've added some stuff to the configuring section under
>         installing in the
>         > manual. There's no mac specific info, are there any mac
>         specific
>         > configuration instructions that should be there?
>         >
>         > Also a suggestion for the windows installer, maybe check for
>         python, and
>         > if there install py.dll, otherwise leave the libraries
>         uninstalled.
>         >
>         > Cheers,
>         > Andrés
>         >
>         > On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 19:20 -0500, Art Hunkins wrote:
>         > > Thanks for the clarifications, Istvan. All is well now
>         with my XP
>         > > installation from .zip. I had the wrong OPCODEDIR.
>         > >
>         > > The Python popup window was interesting. The popup occurs
>         on WinXP, but
>         > not
>         > > on WinME (where an innocuous and inconspicuous message
>         line appears which
>         > I
>         > > had not noticed - no click required).
>         > >
>         > > IMO, all the information you furnished (see below) should
>         go in the
>         > Install
>         > > file in /docs (and hopefully Install will be MS-DOS test
>         format). This
>         > > includes the (not obvious) difference between running
>         csound and csound32.
>         > > (I assume the former would be recommended for delayed
>         playback, the latter
>         > > for realtime, correct?)
>         > >
>         > > Steven, could you possibly take care of this? Or who might
>         be appropriate?
>         > >
>         > > Thanks much to all -
>         > >
>         > > Art Hunkins
>         > >
>         > > ----- Original Message -----
>         > > From: "Istvan Varga" 
>         > > To: 
>         > > Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 3:39 PM
>         > > Subject: Re: [Csnd] 5.0 WinXP Install Issue
>         > >
>         > >
>         > > > On Tuesday 14 February 2006 19:58, Art Hunkins wrote:
>         > > >
>         > > > > I'm getting the following runtime issues following an
>         XP install of
>         > the
>         > > CS5
>         > > > > *.zip* version:
>         > > > >
>         > > > > Messages complain that csound32.dll, csound64.dll and
>         pm_dll.dll are
>         > not
>         > > > > Csound plugin libraries. Then a box opens saying that
>         the program
>         > cannot
>         > > > > find python24.dll.
>         > > > >
>         > > > > The run continues disastrously as no opcodes can be
>         found; then the
>         > run
>         > > > > aborts.
>         > > >
>         > > > This suggests that OPCODEDIR and OPCODEDIR64 are not set
>         correctly. For
>         > > the
>         > > > .zip package, you should set the following environment
>         variables,
>         > assuming
>         > > > that the archive is unpacked in C:\ (if not, correct the
>         paths
>         > > accordingly):
>         > > >
>         > > > set OPCODEDIR=C:\csound5\plugins
>         > > > set OPCODEDIR64=C:\csound5\plugins64
>         > > > set PATH=%PATH%;C:\csound5\bin
>         > > >
>         > > > The last line means that the directory is added to the
>         PATH, which is
>         > > > a list of multiple paths separated by the semicolon
>         character.
>         > Obviously,
>         > > > the exact way of setting the environment depends on the
>         Windows version.
>         > > >
>         > > > If you want to use the Python opcodes, you need to
>         install Python 2.4.
>         > > > Otherwise, just delete csound5\plugins\py.dll and
>         > > csound5\plugins64\py.dll,
>         > > > and the pop-up about the missing Python library should
>         be gone.
>         > > >
>         > > > Note that csound.exe uses 64 bit floats; for single
>         precision, use
>         > > > csound32.exe.
>         > > > --
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>         > >
>         > >
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