If I'm not mistaken (re: subject page), Windows 5.10 requires Python2.6.

At least that is the case in Fedora Linux with Sugar-on-a-Stick Strawberry 
(Sugar 0.84).

Art Hunkins

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Some links to the various frontends would be nice too. It looks very good.

2009/9/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>
>
> I received some good input from Dr.B regarding updating the content at
> http://csound.sourceforge.net so I went ahead and made a bunch of changes
> this morning. Again, though, if anybody else has input regarding what
> should be on the page, please let me know and I will try to get to it 
> before
> the new release is announced.
>
> Cheers,
> ~ andy.f
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy Fillebrown" 
> To: "Developer discussions" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:29:04 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] csound.sf.net page
>
>
> I uploaded the new http://csound.sourceforge.net index.html and faq.html
> I've been working on.
>
> There are only a few issues I wasn't able to resolve:
> - The Windows, OpenSUSE, and Mac OS X download sections need updated links
> to 5.11 installers (I'm not sure which installer goes with each link)
> - The Csound Wiki link is dead (maybe it moved?)
>
> Other than that it should be good to go but proof-reading and 
> link-checking
> would be appreciated.
> Also, if anybody has access to old browsers I'd appreciate it if they 
> could
> be used to test it, too, especially the old Internet Explorer browsers.
>
> The original pages can be found at
> http://csound.sourceforge.net/old_index.html and
> http://csound.sourceforge.net/old_faq.html
>
> Cheers,
> ~ andy.f
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy Fillebrown" 
> To: "Developer discussions" 
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 10:13:54 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] csound.sf.net page
>
>
>
> I had volunteered to do this back in July/August but I got pulled away 
> until
> a few weeks ago. I'm almost done now, though, with only a few hours more 
> of
> work to do on the first draft. I'm hoping to upload it tonight. I have not
> yet updated it for the new release and I have some questions about the 
> more
> dated material which I will post when I have a full list put together.
>
> Cheers,
> ~ andy.f
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Victor Lazzarini" 
> To: "Developer discussions" 
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 10:03:22 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
> Subject: [Cs-dev] csound.sf.net page
>
> Does anyone volunteer for updating csound.sourceforge.net before the
> official release announcement? I am not sure I have the correct skills.
>
> Victor
>
>
> On 28 Sep 2009, at 14:21, jpff wrote:
>
>> I did say there was a serious problem in Engine/fgens.c but that was
>> fixed before the .zip and tgx source files were placed on SF. I am
>> not aware of any change since the files were upload. Also the CVS is
>> tagged with csound5.11 for the version released.
>> ==John ffitch
>>
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I was going to suggest the ones listed at csounds.com but looks like
you already got to that!

2009/9/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>
> Hi Art,
>
> Thank you for this to my attention.  I'll update the FAQ to list the correct
> Python versions for Windows and Linux.  The answer for Macs seems a bit
> complicated, though, and I know nothing about Macs so I am not sure what the
> correct response should be.  Whatever the answer is, to remain consistent
> with the rest of the page it should cover Csound versions 5.08 through 5.11
> since those are the four still available from the page that lists them.  Can
> someone more knowledgeable provide a more complete answer to that particular
> FAQ item?
>
> ~ andy.f
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Art Hunkins" 
> To: "Developer discussions" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 1:04:25 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] csound.sf.net page
>
> If I'm not mistaken (re: subject page), Windows 5.10 requires Python2.6.
>
> At least that is the case in Fedora Linux with Sugar-on-a-Stick Strawberry
> (Sugar 0.84).
>
> Art Hunkins
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rory Walsh" 
> To: "Developer discussions" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] csound.sf.net page
>
>
> Some links to the various frontends would be nice too. It looks very good.
>
> 2009/9/29 Andy Fillebrown :
>>
>>
>> I received some good input from Dr.B regarding updating the content at
>> http://csound.sourceforge.net so I went ahead and made a bunch of changes
>> this morning. Again, though, if anybody else has input regarding what
>> should be on the page, please let me know and I will try to get to it
>> before
>> the new release is announced.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> ~ andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Andy Fillebrown" 
>> To: "Developer discussions" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:29:04 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] csound.sf.net page
>>
>>
>> I uploaded the new http://csound.sourceforge.net index.html and faq.html
>> I've been working on.
>>
>> There are only a few issues I wasn't able to resolve:
>> - The Windows, OpenSUSE, and Mac OS X download sections need updated links
>> to 5.11 installers (I'm not sure which installer goes with each link)
>> - The Csound Wiki link is dead (maybe it moved?)
>>
>> Other than that it should be good to go but proof-reading and
>> link-checking
>> would be appreciated.
>> Also, if anybody has access to old browsers I'd appreciate it if they
>> could
>> be used to test it, too, especially the old Internet Explorer browsers.
>>
>> The original pages can be found at
>> http://csound.sourceforge.net/old_index.html and
>> http://csound.sourceforge.net/old_faq.html
>>
>> Cheers,
>> ~ andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Andy Fillebrown" 
>> To: "Developer discussions" 
>> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 10:13:54 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] csound.sf.net page
>>
>>
>>
>> I had volunteered to do this back in July/August but I got pulled away
>> until
>> a few weeks ago. I'm almost done now, though, with only a few hours more
>> of
>> work to do on the first draft. I'm hoping to upload it tonight. I have not
>> yet updated it for the new release and I have some questions about the
>> more
>> dated material which I will post when I have a full list put together.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> ~ andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Victor Lazzarini" 
>> To: "Developer discussions" 
>> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 10:03:22 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>> Subject: [Cs-dev] csound.sf.net page
>>
>> Does anyone volunteer for updating csound.sourceforge.net before the
>> official release announcement? I am not sure I have the correct skills.
>>
>> Victor
>>
>>
>> On 28 Sep 2009, at 14:21, jpff wrote:
>>
>>> I did say there was a serious problem in Engine/fgens.c but that was
>>> fixed before the .zip and tgx source files were placed on SF. I am
>>> not aware of any change since the files were upload. Also the CVS is
>>> tagged with csound5.11 for the version released.
>>> ==John ffitch
>>>
>>>
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That's fine too but now the banner looks out of place! Do remember
that you can't please everyone, it still looks good.

2009/9/30 Andy Fillebrown :
>
>
> Hi Adam,
>
> Please try the new color scheme and let me know if it's ok.  It should be a
> brownish-red now instead of black (you may have to refresh your browser if
> the black one was cached).
>
> Thanks,
> ~ andy.f
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam" 
> To: "Developer discussions" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:02:40 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] csound.sf.net page
>
>
> Nice work by Andy and everyone.
>
> For me, the page is simply too dark.  I have to select
> all to see the headings.  This may be my poor monitor
> and setup here.
>
> A big job and nice work by all.
>
> Adam.
>
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I liked the old one better, as the new one has lacks the definition
that gave the gave the darker one a more professional vibe.  Perhaps
you can use still use the dark one, and kick up the contrast a bit, by
brightening the text.   Or even negate the colors of the dark scheme.

Best,
Jake


On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Andy Fillebrown
 wrote:
>
>
> Hi Adam,
>
> Please try the new color scheme and let me know if it's ok.  It should be a
> brownish-red now instead of black (you may have to refresh your browser if
> the black one was cached).
>
> Thanks,
> ~ andy.f
>
>
>
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> From: "Adam" 
> To: "Developer discussions" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:02:40 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] csound.sf.net page
>
>
> Nice work by Andy and everyone.
>
> For me, the page is simply too dark.  I have to select
> all to see the headings.  This may be my poor monitor
> and setup here.
>
> A big job and nice work by all.
>
> Adam.
>
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I concur! I preferred the first effort.

Rory.

2009/9/30 Jacob Joaquin :
> I liked the old one better, as the new one has lacks the definition
> that gave the gave the darker one a more professional vibe.  Perhaps
> you can use still use the dark one, and kick up the contrast a bit, by
> brightening the text.   Or even negate the colors of the dark scheme.
>
> Best,
> Jake
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Andy Fillebrown
>  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Adam,
>>
>> Please try the new color scheme and let me know if it's ok.  It should be a
>> brownish-red now instead of black (you may have to refresh your browser if
>> the black one was cached).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> ~ andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Adam" 
>> To: "Developer discussions" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:02:40 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] csound.sf.net page
>>
>>
>> Nice work by Andy and everyone.
>>
>> For me, the page is simply too dark.  I have to select
>> all to see the headings.  This may be my poor monitor
>> and setup here.
>>
>> A big job and nice work by all.
>>
>> Adam.
>>
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I like most of it, but please use black type on an almost white background!

Regards,
Mike

On 9/30/09, Rory Walsh  wrote:
> I concur! I preferred the first effort.
>
> Rory.
>
> 2009/9/30 Jacob Joaquin :
>> I liked the old one better, as the new one has lacks the definition
>> that gave the gave the darker one a more professional vibe.  Perhaps
>> you can use still use the dark one, and kick up the contrast a bit, by
>> brightening the text.   Or even negate the colors of the dark scheme.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jake
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Andy Fillebrown
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Adam,
>>>
>>> Please try the new color scheme and let me know if it's ok.  It should be
>>> a
>>> brownish-red now instead of black (you may have to refresh your browser
>>> if
>>> the black one was cached).
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> ~ andy.f
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Adam" 
>>> To: "Developer discussions" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:02:40 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
>>> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] csound.sf.net page
>>>
>>>
>>> Nice work by Andy and everyone.
>>>
>>> For me, the page is simply too dark.  I have to select
>>> all to see the headings.  This may be my poor monitor
>>> and setup here.
>>>
>>> A big job and nice work by all.
>>>
>>> Adam.
>>>
>>>
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I think this new page is a big improvement over the old one.

I don't like the color scheme, but that's a nitpick, a matter of
personal taste. It is certainly quite readable.

Thanks!



On 9/30/09, Adam  wrote:
>
> Yes, can read all the text now, against the brick-red background.
> I could vaguely see headings but no text before.
>
> I'm easily pleased, so do feel free to further tinker or adjust for
> consensus or best appearance.   Just that that 1st contrast was
> too low for comfort.
>
> Beaut.  Thanks.
>
>
> On Thursday 01 October 2009 03:23 am, Andy Fillebrown wrote:
>> Hi Adam,
>>
>> Please try the new color scheme and let me know if it's ok. It should be a
>> brownish-red now instead of black (you may have to refresh your browser if
>> the black one was cached).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> ~ andy.f
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I also think it's very readable. I think the colour scheme is fine
too. I think the main problem before was readability, I think you've
certainly fixed that problem.

Rory.


2009/9/30 Michael Gogins :
> I think this new page is a big improvement over the old one.
>
> I don't like the color scheme, but that's a nitpick, a matter of
> personal taste. It is certainly quite readable.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> On 9/30/09, Adam  wrote:
>>
>> Yes, can read all the text now, against the brick-red background.
>> I could vaguely see headings but no text before.
>>
>> I'm easily pleased, so do feel free to further tinker or adjust for
>> consensus or best appearance.   Just that that 1st contrast was
>> too low for comfort.
>>
>> Beaut.  Thanks.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday 01 October 2009 03:23 am, Andy Fillebrown wrote:
>>> Hi Adam,
>>>
>>> Please try the new color scheme and let me know if it's ok. It should be a
>>> brownish-red now instead of black (you may have to refresh your browser if
>>> the black one was cached).
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> ~ andy.f
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The silver and grey looks great!  Best out of the three, imho.

Best,
Jake

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Andy Fillebrown
 wrote:
>
>
> I'm changing it pretty rapidly so we're getting a bit of cross-talk, but I'm
> feeling good about the silver and grey one, too.  I'll start trimming out
> the graphics and hopefully will have a "finished" version sometime this
> evening (assuming Dr.B doesn't have any more suggestions =)
>
> ~ andy.f
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rory Walsh" 
> To: "Developer discussions" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:22:19 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] csound.sf.net page
>
> I also think it's very readable. I think the colour scheme is fine
> too. I think the main problem before was readability, I think you've
> certainly fixed that problem.
>
> Rory.
>
>
> 2009/9/30 Michael Gogins :
>> I think this new page is a big improvement over the old one.
>>
>> I don't like the color scheme, but that's a nitpick, a matter of
>> personal taste. It is certainly quite readable.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/30/09, Adam  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, can read all the text now, against the brick-red background.
>>> I could vaguely see headings but no text before.
>>>
>>> I'm easily pleased, so do feel free to further tinker or adjust for
>>> consensus or best appearance.   Just that that 1st contrast was
>>> too low for comfort.
>>>
>>> Beaut.  Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday 01 October 2009 03:23 am, Andy Fillebrown wrote:
>>>> Hi Adam,
>>>>
>>>> Please try the new color scheme and let me know if it's ok. It should be
>>>> a
>>>> brownish-red now instead of black (you may have to refresh your browser
>>>> if
>>>> the black one was cached).
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> ~ andy.f
>>>
>>>
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Yes.  Silver and Grey is pretty great.

Sent from my Radio Baton ;-)

On Sep 30, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Jacob Joaquin   
wrote:

> The silver and grey looks great!  Best out of the three, imho.
>
> Best,
> Jake
>
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Andy Fillebrown
>  wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'm changing it pretty rapidly so we're getting a bit of cross- 
>> talk, but I'm
>> feeling good about the silver and grey one, too.  I'll start  
>> trimming out
>> the graphics and hopefully will have a "finished" version sometime  
>> this
>> evening (assuming Dr.B doesn't have any more suggestions =)
>>
>> ~ andy.f
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rory Walsh" 
>> To: "Developer discussions" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:22:19 PM (GMT-0500) America/ 
>> New_York
>> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] csound.sf.net page
>>
>> I also think it's very readable. I think the colour scheme is fine
>> too. I think the main problem before was readability, I think you've
>> certainly fixed that problem.
>>
>> Rory.
>>
>>
>> 2009/9/30 Michael Gogins :
>>> I think this new page is a big improvement over the old one.
>>>
>>> I don't like the color scheme, but that's a nitpick, a matter of
>>> personal taste. It is certainly quite readable.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/30/09, Adam  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, can read all the text now, against the brick-red background.
>>>> I could vaguely see headings but no text before.
>>>>
>>>> I'm easily pleased, so do feel free to further tinker or adjust for
>>>> consensus or best appearance.   Just that that 1st contrast was
>>>> too low for comfort.
>>>>
>>>> Beaut.  Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday 01 October 2009 03:23 am, Andy Fillebrown wrote:
>>>>> Hi Adam,
>>>>>
>>>>> Please try the new color scheme and let me know if it's ok. It  
>>>>> should be
>>>>> a
>>>>> brownish-red now instead of black (you may have to refresh your  
>>>>> browser
>>>>> if
>>>>> the black one was cached).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> ~ andy.f
>>>>
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On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 02:58 -0700, Andy Fillebrown wrote:
> 
> 
> It's been brought to my attention that the Linux download link is
> probably not the right one.  I took the Linux package's download link
> directly from Csounds.com and didn't realize it was the 64 bit
> platform.  Since Linux users are generally computer savvy and will
> know to use their package manager to install Csound, what I'd like to
> do is provide a Linux link that will work for Ubuntu users that may be
> new to Linux and unfamiliar with Sourceforge's other pages.  Maybe
> this is the wrong question to be asking, but which version of the
> Csound packages will run on an x86 32-bit computer running
> Ubuntu?  ...or is there a better way to get Csound up and running on
> Ubuntu?

Ubuntu picks up the package from debian automagically, so as long as I
provide the debian package in a timely manner, ubuntu users should too.

OTOH, 5.11 is not building for me right now so users will likely have to
wait...

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Hi Andy,

Thanks for the work. I think the page has certainly improved. I wanted
to ask about the maintanability of the page. Is it easy for anyone to
edit without risking breaking something?

Cheers,
Andres

On 9/30/09, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 02:58 -0700, Andy Fillebrown wrote:
>>
>>
>> It's been brought to my attention that the Linux download link is
>> probably not the right one.  I took the Linux package's download link
>> directly from Csounds.com and didn't realize it was the 64 bit
>> platform.  Since Linux users are generally computer savvy and will
>> know to use their package manager to install Csound, what I'd like to
>> do is provide a Linux link that will work for Ubuntu users that may be
>> new to Linux and unfamiliar with Sourceforge's other pages.  Maybe
>> this is the wrong question to be asking, but which version of the
>> Csound packages will run on an x86 32-bit computer running
>> Ubuntu?  ...or is there a better way to get Csound up and running on
>> Ubuntu?
>
> Ubuntu picks up the package from debian automagically, so as long as I
> provide the debian package in a timely manner, ubuntu users should too.
>
> OTOH, 5.11 is not building for me right now so users will likely have to
> wait...
>
> --
> Saludos,
> Felipe Sateler
>


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Cool, that's good news, thanks.

Cheers,
Andres

On 9/30/09, Andy Fillebrown  wrote:
>
> Hi Andres,
>
> Maintainability has been significantly improved. Anyone with a basic
> understanding of css and html will be able to update it.
>
> Cheers,
> ~ andy.f
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andres Cabrera" 
> To: "Developer discussions" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 4:23:28 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] csound.sf.net page
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> Thanks for the work. I think the page has certainly improved. I wanted
> to ask about the maintanability of the page. Is it easy for anyone to
> edit without risking breaking something?
>
> Cheers,
> Andres
>
> On 9/30/09, Felipe Sateler  wrote:
>> On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 02:58 -0700, Andy Fillebrown wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> It's been brought to my attention that the Linux download link is
>>> probably not the right one. I took the Linux package's download link
>>> directly from Csounds.com and didn't realize it was the 64 bit
>>> platform. Since Linux users are generally computer savvy and will
>>> know to use their package manager to install Csound, what I'd like to
>>> do is provide a Linux link that will work for Ubuntu users that may be
>>> new to Linux and unfamiliar with Sourceforge's other pages. Maybe
>>> this is the wrong question to be asking, but which version of the
>>> Csound packages will run on an x86 32-bit computer running
>>> Ubuntu? ...or is there a better way to get Csound up and running on
>>> Ubuntu?
>>
>> Ubuntu picks up the package from debian automagically, so as long as I
>> provide the debian package in a timely manner, ubuntu users should too.
>>
>> OTOH, 5.11 is not building for me right now so users will likely have to
>> wait...
>>
>> --
>> Saludos,
>> Felipe Sateler
>>
>
>
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>
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Hi Andy -

I'm also totally happy about the new site. Thanks!

I'd just suggest that you mention Andrés in the "Thanks" section, as  
the maintainer of the manual and the creator of QuteCsound. Both is so  
much work and so important.

Ciao -

	joachim


Am 30.09.2009 um 21:42 schrieb Andy Fillebrown:

>
>
> Ok, I just finished another round of edits ...take a look and let me  
> know if there are any more changes that need to be made.
>
> I relinked the linux download to the one for 32 bit platforms  
> (instead of the rarer 64 bit platforms), and for now I'm going to  
> assume
> Ubuntu and Debian users know how to use their respective pacakage  
> managers to find Csound if that link doesn't work for them.
>
> Cheers,
> ~ andy.f
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dr. Richard Boulanger" 
> To: "Developer discussions" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:34:44 PM (GMT-0500) America/ 
> New_York
> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] csound.sf.net page
>
> Yes.  Silver and Grey is pretty great.
>
> Sent from my Radio Baton ;-)
>
> On Sep 30, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Jacob Joaquin 
> wrote:
>
> > The silver and grey looks great!  Best out of the three, imho.
> >
> > Best,
> > Jake
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Andy Fillebrown
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm changing it pretty rapidly so we're getting a bit of cross-
> >> talk, but I'm
> >> feeling good about the silver and grey one, too.  I'll start
> >> trimming out
> >> the graphics and hopefully will have a "finished" version sometime
> >> this
> >> evening (assuming Dr.B doesn't have any more suggestions =)
> >>
> >> ~ andy.f
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Rory Walsh" 
> >> To: "Developer discussions" 
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:22:19 PM (GMT-0500) America/
> >> New_York
> >> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] csound.sf.net page
> >>
> >> I also think it's very readable. I think the colour scheme is fine
> >> too. I think the main problem before was readability, I think  
> you've
> >> certainly fixed that problem.
> >>
> >> Rory.
> >>
> >>
> >> 2009/9/30 Michael Gogins :
> >>> I think this new page is a big improvement over the old one.
> >>>
> >>> I don't like the color scheme, but that's a nitpick, a matter of
> >>> personal taste. It is certainly quite readable.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 9/30/09, Adam  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, can read all the text now, against the brick-red background.
> >>>> I could vaguely see headings but no text before.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm easily pleased, so do feel free to further tinker or adjust  
> for
> >>>> consensus or best appearance.   Just that that 1st contrast was
> >>>> too low for comfort.
> >>>>
> >>>> Beaut.  Thanks.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thursday 01 October 2009 03:23 am, Andy Fillebrown wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Adam,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please try the new color scheme and let me know if it's ok. It
> >>>>> should be
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> brownish-red now instead of black (you may have to refresh your
> >>>>> browser
> >>>>> if
> >>>>> the black one was cached).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> ~ andy.f
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For the first time in my life yesterday someone remarked that Csound
has gotten more user friendly! He was referring to the massive work
being done with the installers, the development of numerous frontends
and the maintaining of the sourceforge page, kudos to all involved!

2009/10/8 joachim heintz :
> Hi Andy -
>
> I'm also totally happy about the new site. Thanks!
>
> I'd just suggest that you mention Andrés in the "Thanks" section, as
> the maintainer of the manual and the creator of QuteCsound. Both is so
> much work and so important.
>
> Ciao -
>
>        joachim

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Hi joachim,

Thanks for the feedback on the new site ...and of course Andres should be thanked, too.  Good suggestion!

Cheers,
~ andy.f



----- "joachim heintz"  wrote:
> Hi Andy -
> 
> I'm also totally happy about the new site. Thanks!
> 
> I'd just suggest that you mention Andrés in the "Thanks" section, as 
> 
> the maintainer of the manual and the creator of QuteCsound. Both is so
>  
> much work and so important.
> 
> Ciao -
> 
> 	joachim
> 
> 
> Am 30.09.2009 um 21:42 schrieb Andy Fillebrown:
> 
> >
> >
> > Ok, I just finished another round of edits ...take a look and let me
>  
> > know if there are any more changes that need to be made.
> >
> > I relinked the linux download to the one for 32 bit platforms  
> > (instead of the rarer 64 bit platforms), and for now I'm going to  
> > assume
> > Ubuntu and Debian users know how to use their respective pacakage  
> > managers to find Csound if that link doesn't work for them.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > ~ andy.f
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dr. Richard Boulanger" 
> > To: "Developer discussions" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:34:44 PM (GMT-0500) America/ 
> > New_York
> > Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] csound.sf.net page
> >
> > Yes.  Silver and Grey is pretty great.
> >
> > Sent from my Radio Baton ;-)
> >
> > On Sep 30, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Jacob Joaquin 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The silver and grey looks great!  Best out of the three, imho.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Jake
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Andy Fillebrown
> > >  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I'm changing it pretty rapidly so we're getting a bit of cross-
> > >> talk, but I'm
> > >> feeling good about the silver and grey one, too.  I'll start
> > >> trimming out
> > >> the graphics and hopefully will have a "finished" version
> sometime
> > >> this
> > >> evening (assuming Dr.B doesn't have any more suggestions =)
> > >>
> > >> ~ andy.f
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Rory Walsh" 
> > >> To: "Developer discussions" 
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:22:19 PM (GMT-0500)
> America/
> > >> New_York
> > >> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] csound.sf.net page
> > >>
> > >> I also think it's very readable. I think the colour scheme is
> fine
> > >> too. I think the main problem before was readability, I think  
> > you've
> > >> certainly fixed that problem.
> > >>
> > >> Rory.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 2009/9/30 Michael Gogins :
> > >>> I think this new page is a big improvement over the old one.
> > >>>
> > >>> I don't like the color scheme, but that's a nitpick, a matter
> of
> > >>> personal taste. It is certainly quite readable.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks!
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 9/30/09, Adam  wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Yes, can read all the text now, against the brick-red
> background.
> > >>>> I could vaguely see headings but no text before.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'm easily pleased, so do feel free to further tinker or adjust
>  
> > for
> > >>>> consensus or best appearance.   Just that that 1st contrast
> was
> > >>>> too low for comfort.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Beaut.  Thanks.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Thursday 01 October 2009 03:23 am, Andy Fillebrown wrote:
> > >>>>> Hi Adam,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Please try the new color scheme and let me know if it's ok.
> It
> > >>>>> should be
> > >>>>> a
> > >>>>> brownish-red now instead of black (you may have to refresh
> your
> > >>>>> browser
> > >>>>> if
> > >>>>> the black one was cached).
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>> ~ andy.f
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That's great news, Rory!  Thanks for passing it on.

~ andy.f



----- "Rory Walsh"  wrote:
> For the first time in my life yesterday someone remarked that Csound
> has gotten more user friendly! He was referring to the massive work
> being done with the installers, the development of numerous frontends
> and the maintaining of the sourceforge page, kudos to all involved!
> 
> 2009/10/8 joachim heintz :
> > Hi Andy -
> >
> > I'm also totally happy about the new site. Thanks!
> >
> > I'd just suggest that you mention Andrés in the "Thanks" section,
> as
> > the maintainer of the manual and the creator of QuteCsound. Both is
> so
> > much work and so important.
> >
> > Ciao -
> >
> >        joachim
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On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
> For the first time in my life yesterday someone remarked that Csound
> has gotten more user friendly! He was referring to the massive work
> being done with the installers, the development of numerous frontends
> and the maintaining of the sourceforge page, kudos to all involved!

This.

I, too, appreciate all the wonderful work people have been putting
into improving Csound on the front-end of things.  That includes
QuteCsound, the improved installers, new opcodes, the new look at
source forge, the Csound mp3 pack, etc...  Even the small things make
a difference, like correcting small errors in the manual.  All of
these things add up.  And people notice.  Now let's see how far we can
take it.

I'm personally starting back up The Csound Blog, and will make sure to
post tips and tricks aimed to those new to Csound:

http://csound.noisepages.com/


Thanks again.  You are all doing wonderful work.

Best,
Jake

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A few thoughts on "how far we can take it"...
- Put pics and bios of the devs up on a separate "meet the community" page?
- Contact Sourceforge about doing a "Project of the Month" feature on Csound?
- Start a Csound fan site on Facebook (maybe too cheesy)?

... anyway, that's what I would do if I wanted to keep Csound on pace with the 'net and attract more users.

Cheers,
~ andy.f



----- "Jacob Joaquin"  wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
> > For the first time in my life yesterday someone remarked that
> Csound
> > has gotten more user friendly! He was referring to the massive work
> > being done with the installers, the development of numerous
> frontends
> > and the maintaining of the sourceforge page, kudos to all involved!
> 
> This.
> 
> I, too, appreciate all the wonderful work people have been putting
> into improving Csound on the front-end of things.  That includes
> QuteCsound, the improved installers, new opcodes, the new look at
> source forge, the Csound mp3 pack, etc...  Even the small things make
> a difference, like correcting small errors in the manual.  All of
> these things add up.  And people notice.  Now let's see how far we
> can
> take it.
> 
> I'm personally starting back up The Csound Blog, and will make sure
> to
> post tips and tricks aimed to those new to Csound:
> 
> http://csound.noisepages.com/
> 
> 
> Thanks again.  You are all doing wonderful work.
> 
> Best,
> Jake
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I like all these ideas.  There is the Csound Interest Group at Facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=22800305072&ref=search&sid=571675923.17754318..1

I find facebook groups tend to be stale, as they generally get little
to no activity.  I did start a Csound group at noisepages, a
meta-community for all things art and code, with an strong emphasis on
music.

http://noisepages.com/groups/csound

Noisepages has only recently launched its new social networking/public
blogging features.  There is no way to guarantee that it'll take off.
Though it is run by Peter Kirn of CreateDigitalMusic and
CreateDigitalMotion, both of which get a sizable traffic.  So the odds
are favorable.  If noisepages is successful, then I believe having a
Csound presence there would help, as it gives us a chance to bridge
the gap between our world other others.

I originally misread your 'Project of the Month' suggestion, as I
thought you were saying that perhaps there could be a monthly
topic/challenge that the Csound community sponsors each month, much
like the Sine Composition Challenge from a few months back.
Variations of this idea has popped up several times over the years.
Perhaps now would be a good time to move forward with that.  Just pick
a topic, and run with it.

Best,
Jake


On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Andy Fillebrown
 wrote:
>
>
>
> A few thoughts on "how far we can take it"...
> - Put pics and bios of the devs up on a separate "meet the community" page?
> - Contact Sourceforge about doing a "Project of the Month" feature on Csound?
> - Start a Csound fan site on Facebook (maybe too cheesy)?
>
> ... anyway, that's what I would do if I wanted to keep Csound on pace with the 'net and attract more users.
>
> Cheers,
> ~ andy.f
>
>
>
> ----- "Jacob Joaquin"  wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>> > For the first time in my life yesterday someone remarked that
>> Csound
>> > has gotten more user friendly! He was referring to the massive work
>> > being done with the installers, the development of numerous
>> frontends
>> > and the maintaining of the sourceforge page, kudos to all involved!
>>
>> This.
>>
>> I, too, appreciate all the wonderful work people have been putting
>> into improving Csound on the front-end of things.  That includes
>> QuteCsound, the improved installers, new opcodes, the new look at
>> source forge, the Csound mp3 pack, etc...  Even the small things make
>> a difference, like correcting small errors in the manual.  All of
>> these things add up.  And people notice.  Now let's see how far we
>> can
>> take it.
>>
>> I'm personally starting back up The Csound Blog, and will make sure
>> to
>> post tips and tricks aimed to those new to Csound:
>>
>> http://csound.noisepages.com/
>>
>>
>> Thanks again.  You are all doing wonderful work.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jake
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If you have any time, Andy -
could you have a look at the download pages of Csound and QuteCsound  
for making them more user-friendly too?
(in mean http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/ and http://sourceforge.net/projects/qutecsound/)
Anthony recently made some good suggestions for it.
Just my opinion.
Ciao -
	joachim


Am 08.10.2009 um 18:07 schrieb Andy Fillebrown:

>
>
>
> A few thoughts on "how far we can take it"...
> - Put pics and bios of the devs up on a separate "meet the  
> community" page?
> - Contact Sourceforge about doing a "Project of the Month" feature  
> on Csound?
> - Start a Csound fan site on Facebook (maybe too cheesy)?
>
> ... anyway, that's what I would do if I wanted to keep Csound on  
> pace with the 'net and attract more users.
>
> Cheers,
> ~ andy.f
>
>
>
> ----- "Jacob Joaquin"  wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Rory Walsh  wrote:
>>> For the first time in my life yesterday someone remarked that
>> Csound
>>> has gotten more user friendly! He was referring to the massive work
>>> being done with the installers, the development of numerous
>> frontends
>>> and the maintaining of the sourceforge page, kudos to all involved!
>>
>> This.
>>
>> I, too, appreciate all the wonderful work people have been putting
>> into improving Csound on the front-end of things.  That includes
>> QuteCsound, the improved installers, new opcodes, the new look at
>> source forge, the Csound mp3 pack, etc...  Even the small things make
>> a difference, like correcting small errors in the manual.  All of
>> these things add up.  And people notice.  Now let's see how far we
>> can
>> take it.
>>
>> I'm personally starting back up The Csound Blog, and will make sure
>> to
>> post tips and tricks aimed to those new to Csound:
>>
>> http://csound.noisepages.com/
>>
>>
>> Thanks again.  You are all doing wonderful work.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jake
>>
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----- Original Message -----

From: Andy Fillebrown

To: Developer discussions

Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 1:15 AM

Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] csound.sf.net page

I'm actually taking a step back from Csound so I can spend more time on AudioCarver, but I was under the impression that those pages were not user-definable anyway.  Is this not the case?

~ andy.f



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To: "Developer discussions" <csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2009 4:06:39 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] csound.sf.net page

If you have any time, Andy -
could you have a look at the download pages of Csound and QuteCsound  
for making them more user-friendly too?
(in mean http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/ and http://sourceforge.net/projects/qutecsound/)
Anthony recently made some good suggestions for it.
Just my opinion.
Ciao -
        joachim


Am 08.10.2009 um 18:07 schrieb Andy Fillebrown:

>
>
>
> A few thoughts on "how far we can take it"...
> - Put pics and bios of the devs up on a separate "meet the  
> community" page?
> - Contact Sourceforge about doing a "Project of the Month" feature  
> on Csound?
> - Start a Csound fan site on Facebook (maybe too cheesy)?
>
> ... anyway, that's what I would do if I wanted to keep Csound on  
> pace with the 'net and attract more users.
>
> Cheers,
> ~ andy.f
>
>
>
> ----- "Jacob Joaquin" <jacobjoaquin@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>>> For the first time in my life yesterday someone remarked that
>> Csound
>>> has gotten more user friendly! He was referring to the massive work
>>> being done with the installers, the development of numerous
>> frontends
>>> and the maintaining of the sourceforge page, kudos to all involved!
>>
>> This.
>>
>> I, too, appreciate all the wonderful work people have been putting
>> into improving Csound on the front-end of things.  That includes
>> QuteCsound, the improved installers, new opcodes, the new look at
>> source forge, the Csound mp3 pack, etc...  Even the small things make
>> a difference, like correcting small errors in the manual.  All of
>> these things add up.  And people notice.  Now let's see how far we
>> can
>> take it.
>>
>> I'm personally starting back up The Csound Blog, and will make sure
>> to
>> post tips and tricks aimed to those new to Csound:
>>
>> http://csound.noisepages.com/
>>
>>
>> Thanks again.  You are all doing wonderful work.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jake
>>
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