I would suggest asking Andres to build the VST host opcodes, since he
would know how to do straight away.

Victor
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Boulanger" 
To: "Developer discussions" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:24 PM
Subject: [Cs-dev] The VST Stuff - for Mac Especially?


> If there is some way to build the VST (and other non-GLP) plugins
>
> Andres and Anthony offered to write some script or put together some
> sort of installer
> that would put these binaries into the right folders
>
> We would be happy to host these at cSounds.com
>
> (Hopefully they will not be too large)
>
> Please let me know what your thoughts are about this.
>
> -dB
>
>
> On Dec 17, 2008, at 5:09 PM, Anthony Kozar wrote:
>
>> If this is the message that you are seeing, then I think your plugins
>> weren't actually built with the latest version.h:
>>
>>        csound->Warning(csound, Str("not loading '%s' (incompatible "
>>                                    "with this version of Csound
>> (%d.%d/%d.%d)"),
>>                        fname, majorVersion,minorVersion,
>>                        CS_APIVERSION,CS_APISUBVER);
>>
>>
>> Anthony
>>
>> On Wed, December 17, 2008 6:43 am, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>> I am having trouble now with the csound versioning upgrade. When
>>> it attempts to load opcodes, it says they are incompatible with
>>> this version of csound. These are the opcodes I just built.
>>>
>>> Suggestions?
>>>
>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>> Music Technology Laboratory
>>> Music Department
>>> National University of Ireland, Maynooth
>>>
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Could Anthony help with this - subset (and maybe advise and include  
some of the other missing pieces too - like the loris stuff?  or the  
fluidsynth stuff?)

Anthony?

Hope so.... and thanks to ALL the Developers for All your incredible  
and invaluable work!

-dB

On Dec 18, 2008, at 12:08 PM, Andres Cabrera wrote:

> I don't have a system for building csound setup for OS X or Windows,
> so I can't do this. It's very straight forward, though, you just need
> the VST headers and tell scons to build the plugin.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrés
>
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:27 PM, victor   
> wrote:
>> I would suggest asking Andres to build the VST host opcodes, since he
>> would know how to do straight away.
>>
>> Victor
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Richard Boulanger" 
>> To: "Developer discussions" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:24 PM
>> Subject: [Cs-dev] The VST Stuff - for Mac Especially?
>>
>>
>>> If there is some way to build the VST (and other non-GLP) plugins
>>>
>>> Andres and Anthony offered to write some script or put together some
>>> sort of installer
>>> that would put these binaries into the right folders
>>>
>>> We would be happy to host these at cSounds.com
>>>
>>> (Hopefully they will not be too large)
>>>
>>> Please let me know what your thoughts are about this.
>>>
>>> -dB
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 17, 2008, at 5:09 PM, Anthony Kozar wrote:
>>>
>>>> If this is the message that you are seeing, then I think your  
>>>> plugins
>>>> weren't actually built with the latest version.h:
>>>>
>>>>       csound->Warning(csound, Str("not loading '%s' (incompatible "
>>>>                                   "with this version of Csound
>>>> (%d.%d/%d.%d)"),
>>>>                       fname, majorVersion,minorVersion,
>>>>                       CS_APIVERSION,CS_APISUBVER);
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anthony
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, December 17, 2008 6:43 am, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>>> I am having trouble now with the csound versioning upgrade. When
>>>>> it attempts to load opcodes, it says they are incompatible with
>>>>> this version of csound. These are the opcodes I just built.
>>>>>
>>>>> Suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>> Victor Lazzarini
>>>>> Music Technology Laboratory
>>>>> Music Department
>>>>> National University of Ireland, Maynooth
>>>>>
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Dr. B,

I'm very sorry to not have replied sooner to your emails on this subject.  I
have been very busy with Christmas and Leopard packaging of Csound so that
many personal emails have gone unanswered recently.  Apologies.

I already have a "Loris for Csound" package built that is ready for
distribution but I have not uploaded it anywhere yet because I want to ask
the Loris authors about the licensing.  The binary package for this is
actually quite small but because the GPL license of Loris is more
restrictive than Csound's LGPL, hosting this plugin will legally require
hosting ALL source code for every library that I used to build Csound and
the Loris plugin.  This amounts to a source code package that is about 69 MB
right now.  I assume that is too big for Csounds.com so I am going to try
hosting it on my own site for now and hope that not too many people download
the source code too :)

fluidsynth opcodes will be a standard part of the OS X Leopard Csound
packages.  (Is Victor not including it for Tiger?)

Regarding the VST stuff, I would be happy to provide my packaging scripts
and files for the Loris package as an example to anyone who wants to build
VST extras for Csound.  I will also answer questions about how to use and
adapt them if I can.  However, I'm sorry to have to say that I am not
willing to build or distribute the VST components myself.  I think it is too
much of a legal quagmire to get involved with.

Hope that this will be enough in the long run ...

Anthony

Richard Boulanger wrote on 12/18/08 12:53 PM:

> Could Anthony help with this - subset (and maybe advise and include
> some of the other missing pieces too - like the loris stuff?  or the
> fluidsynth stuff?)
> 
> Anthony?
> 
> Hope so.... and thanks to ALL the Developers for All your incredible
> and invaluable work!

> On Dec 18, 2008, at 12:08 PM, Andres Cabrera wrote:
> 
>> I don't have a system for building csound setup for OS X or Windows,
>> so I can't do this. It's very straight forward, though, you just need
>> the VST headers and tell scons to build the plugin.

>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Richard Boulanger" 
>>> To: "Developer discussions" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:24 PM
>>> Subject: [Cs-dev] The VST Stuff - for Mac Especially?

>>>> If there is some way to build the VST (and other non-GLP) plugins
>>>> Andres and Anthony offered to write some script or put together some
>>>> sort of installer that would put these binaries into the right folders
>>>> 
>>>> We would be happy to host these at cSounds.com



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Anthony,

Thanks.... This all sounds great.

Your building and hosting the Loris stuff will be great.

And.......

Your helping me/others to get the VST stuff together (especially the  
mac stuff) would be great too.

I think we can host that part at cSounds.com.

But, I too will look carefully at the legal stuff to see if there are  
any issues that I need to be concerned about.

Dr. B.

On Dec 18, 2008, at 10:34 PM, Anthony Kozar wrote:

> Dr. B,
>
> I'm very sorry to not have replied sooner to your emails on this  
> subject.  I
> have been very busy with Christmas and Leopard packaging of Csound  
> so that
> many personal emails have gone unanswered recently.  Apologies.
>
> I already have a "Loris for Csound" package built that is ready for
> distribution but I have not uploaded it anywhere yet because I want  
> to ask
> the Loris authors about the licensing.  The binary package for this is
> actually quite small but because the GPL license of Loris is more
> restrictive than Csound's LGPL, hosting this plugin will legally  
> require
> hosting ALL source code for every library that I used to build  
> Csound and
> the Loris plugin.  This amounts to a source code package that is  
> about 69 MB
> right now.  I assume that is too big for Csounds.com so I am going  
> to try
> hosting it on my own site for now and hope that not too many people  
> download
> the source code too :)
>
> fluidsynth opcodes will be a standard part of the OS X Leopard Csound
> packages.  (Is Victor not including it for Tiger?)
>
> Regarding the VST stuff, I would be happy to provide my packaging  
> scripts
> and files for the Loris package as an example to anyone who wants to  
> build
> VST extras for Csound.  I will also answer questions about how to  
> use and
> adapt them if I can.  However, I'm sorry to have to say that I am not
> willing to build or distribute the VST components myself.  I think  
> it is too
> much of a legal quagmire to get involved with.
>
> Hope that this will be enough in the long run ...
>
> Anthony
>
> Richard Boulanger wrote on 12/18/08 12:53 PM:
>
>> Could Anthony help with this - subset (and maybe advise and include
>> some of the other missing pieces too - like the loris stuff?  or the
>> fluidsynth stuff?)
>>
>> Anthony?
>>
>> Hope so.... and thanks to ALL the Developers for All your incredible
>> and invaluable work!
>
>> On Dec 18, 2008, at 12:08 PM, Andres Cabrera wrote:
>>
>>> I don't have a system for building csound setup for OS X or Windows,
>>> so I can't do this. It's very straight forward, though, you just  
>>> need
>>> the VST headers and tell scons to build the plugin.
>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Richard Boulanger" 
>>>> To: "Developer discussions" 
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:24 PM
>>>> Subject: [Cs-dev] The VST Stuff - for Mac Especially?
>
>>>>> If there is some way to build the VST (and other non-GLP) plugins
>>>>> Andres and Anthony offered to write some script or put together  
>>>>> some
>>>>> sort of installer that would put these binaries into the right  
>>>>> folders
>>>>>
>>>>> We would be happy to host these at cSounds.com
>
>
>
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