I agree here with Istvan.  The example as I undertsood it was as
Istvan understood it, one for demoing the API with Java.  The reason I
mentioned and ant build.xml file is that is the most common build too
for Java programmers, and if a Java programmer wants to use the API,
using ant is going to be more natural and easier for them to use than
make or scons.

I met Victor this morning but only briefly but will raise the point
next time I see him to see if we can't all get on the same page on
this.

Thanks,
steven


On 12/2/05, Istvan Varga <istvan_v@fibermail.hu> wrote:
> On Thursday 01 December 2005 23:00, Michael Gogins wrote:
>
> > I see no problem with distributing Java jars, either.  At some point, there
> > will be users of the jars that are not Java programmers (perhaps the
> > CSDPlayer will turn into a full-featured GUI front end; after all, Java is
> > cross-platform).
>
> But it is not a full featured GUI. It is only an example that shows
> using the Csound API in Java, and as such it is mainly useful to Java
> developers reading the sources. There is no point in including the
> compiled .jar file in what is intended to be developer CVS sources
> after all, when it can be compiled from CSDPlayer.java with standard,
> publicly available tools. Even if it would really be a useful GUI (to
> users), then the right place for the .jar is in a binary distribution.
>
> It was agreed earlier that large binary files should not be uploaded
> to the csound5 CVS module, and so the binaries were removed. I am
> worried about such files creeping back again, particularly when their
> inclusion is not justified by any real reason, it is merely some people
> being untidy or ignorant.
>
> By the way, a feature freeze until the release of Csound 5 was also
> asked for so that we can concentrate on the issues remaining to be
> solved in order to have a release (completing and freezing the API,
> fixing bugs, writing documentation, creating installable packages
> for the main platforms, etc.). It is unfortunate that this is ignored,
> in case the CSD Player is intended to be more than just an example.
> Either way, I think the .jar should be removed.
>
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