Hi Istvan, I really have liked UDO's since there introduction by you, and even though the code to support them is "hackish" by your standards, it works brilliantly for me, and the feature does allow for better expression of ideas in a safer and easier to debug way than macro's (in the same way macro's are eschewed by C++ people for reasons of type safety, IMO). I can understand not wanting to work on it considering the latest emails, but I would think that UDO code shouldn't be labeled deprecated as I believe it has become a core part of the Csound experience and I think should absolutely be supported for any new parser. I think even if you were not to work on it again, others would and should continue to develop and maintain it. steven On 5/16/06, Istvan Varga wrote: > On Tuesday 16 May 2006 18:43, matt ingalls wrote: > > > are you labeling them deprecated just because they are a hack? > > just because something is a hack doesn't mean > > it is unusable! > > It can still be a pain to maintain and update for any major > internal change (e.g. a new orchestra parser), though. It remains > to be seen if a replacement is developed, the current syntax is > kept but the code is simplified and cleaned up (at the expense > of reduced efficiency), or everything is just left as it is but > no longer improved. > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel > ------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0709&bid&3057&dat1642 _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@lists.sourceforge.net