Hi All, I've been trying for a while here this morning to build csound on Win2k. I think I have everything set up correctly in custom.py, passing in flags to build interfaces. I've gotten stuck though and get the message copied below. Any ideas? Thanks! steven g++ -shared -module -Wl,--add-stdcall-alias -o _csnd.dll interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o interfaces\pyMsgCb.o interfaces\CppSound.o interfaces\CsoundFile.o interfaces\Soundfile.o interfaces\csPerfThread.o interfaces\cs_glue.o interfaces\filebuilding.o -L. -L. -L\usr\local\lib -L. -L. -LC:\msys\1.0\local\lib -LC:\work\libsndfile-1_0_17 -LD:\utah\opt\portmidi\pm_win -LD:\utah\opt\portmidi\porttime -LD:\utah\opt\portmidi -LC:\msys\1.0\local\lib -LC:\Python24\libs -LC:\work\fluidsynth-1.0.3-win32 -LD:\utah\opt\pd-0.38-4-devel-2\bin -LD:\utah\opt\fftw-3.0.1\.libs -lpython24 -lstdc++ -lcsound64 -lsndfile -lsndfile -lkernel32 -lgdi32 -lwsock32 -lws2_32 -lole32 -luuid -lwinmm -lkernel32 -lgdi32 -lwsock32 -lws2_32 -lole32 -luuid -lwinmm -Wl,--out-implib,lib_csnd.a -Wl,--output-def,_csnd.def interfaces\filebuilding.o(.text$_ZN10CsoundFileC1Ev+0x0):filebuilding.cpp: multiple definition of `CsoundFile::CsoundFile()' interfaces\CsoundFile.o(.text+0x20d0):CsoundFile.cpp: first defined here Creating library file: lib_csnd.a interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x659c):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyType_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x79ba):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_RuntimeError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x7b72):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_RuntimeError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x803b):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_RuntimeError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x81f2):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_RuntimeError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x86db):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_RuntimeError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x8892):python_interface_wrap.cc: more undefined references to `_imp__PyExc_RuntimeError' follow interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0xd5b2):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_StopIteration' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0xd724):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0xd787):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0xd8a4):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0xd907):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0xdf22):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_RuntimeError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0xe502):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_RuntimeError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0xeb6c):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_StopIteration' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0xee13):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_StopIteration' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0xf1bc):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_StopIteration' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0xfaec):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_StopIteration' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0xfe8e):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_StopIteration' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x10272):python_interface_wrap.cc: more undefined references to `_imp__PyExc_StopIteration' follow interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x10354):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x103ae):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp___Py_NotImplementedStruct' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x103b5):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp___Py_NotImplementedStruct' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x3744b):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x374b9):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x37a0e):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x37a88):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x461cb):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x46215):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x477b1):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x4782e):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x47f0b):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x47f5e):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x4812b):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x48175):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x4aa22):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x4aa80):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x4b764):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x4b7c7):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x4bbe2):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x4bc40):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x4c452):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x4c4b0):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x4c9eb):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x4ca3e):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x4cc18):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x4cc9a):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x4e204):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x4e24b):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x4fee4):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x4ff2b):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x50784):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x507cb):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x50b24):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x50b87):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x513c1):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x51464):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x52b3f):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x52b97):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x53084):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x530e7):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x57c24):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x57c7e):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x585fb):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x5864e):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x58bdb):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x58c2e):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x5a044):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x5a08b):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x5b274):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x5b2bb):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x5ce54):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x5ce9b):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x610e4):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x6113e):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x612a4):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x612fe):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x61464):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x614be):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x63724):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x6377e):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x689cb):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x68a15):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x6d6d1):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x6d771):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x6eff4):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x6f057):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x6f464):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x6f4c7):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x72764):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x727ab):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x72864):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x728ab):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x72964):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x729ab):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x72a64):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x72aab):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x72ccc):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x72d1f):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x73034):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x7309b):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x739ab):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x739fa):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x73b0c):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x73b5f):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x7508b):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x750de):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x75ccb):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x75d1e):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x7ea2e):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x7ea96):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x7ed6b):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x7edbe):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x7ef2b):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyTuple_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x7ef7e):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_NotImplementedError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x829f5):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_MemoryError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x82a04):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_AttributeError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x82a0b):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_SystemError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x82a12):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_ValueError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x82a19):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_SyntaxError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x82a20):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_OverflowError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x82a27):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_ZeroDivisionError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x82a2e):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_TypeError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x82a35):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_IndexError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x82a41):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_RuntimeError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x82a48):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_IOError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x82b26):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_RuntimeError' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x82b81):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp___Py_NoneStruct' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x82b8c):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyList_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x82cb2):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyClass_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x832b1):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyType_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x835f7):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyType_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x8364d):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyInstance_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x838bb):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyType_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x8393d):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp___PyWeakref_ProxyType' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x83945):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp___PyWeakref_CallableProxyType' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x83c5d):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyCFunction_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x83fc2):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyType_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x840d4):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyFloat_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x84134):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyInt_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x84167):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyLong_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x841d4):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyInt_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x8422c):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyLong_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x84274):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyInt_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x842c4):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyLong_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x8431c):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyString_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x84524):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyLong_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x84839):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp___Py_TrueStruct' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x84849):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp___Py_ZeroStruct' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x84d00):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_StopIteration' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x85180):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_StopIteration' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x85700):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_StopIteration' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x85b80):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_StopIteration' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0x85f82):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_StopIteration' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0xa46b2):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyType_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0xa478e):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyType_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text+0xa4fb7):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyType_Type' interfaces\python_interface_wrap.o(.text$_ZN4swig19traits_asptr_stdseqISt6vectorIdSaIdEEdE5asptrEP7_objectPPS3_+0x398):python_interface_wrap.cc: undefined reference to `_imp__PyExc_TypeError' scons: building terminated because of errors. scons: *** [_csnd.dll] Error 1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? 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