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[Csnd] Tenney's For Ann (Rising), new version

Date2022-09-07 20:24
FromVictor Lazzarini
Subject[Csnd] Tenney's For Ann (Rising), new version
After chatting to Matt Ingalls, it appears that the original Csound version of Tenney's For Ann as realised for the CD of his electronic music
had an issue buried in it. I found a blog by Tom Erbe who realised describing Tenney's instructions and then I decided to make a new version,
with more compact code, using the modern resources of the language (and without a numeric score).

The instructions are:

1) 240 sinewave glissandos from 27.5 up 9 octaves to 14080 Hz.
2) A simple trapezoid envelope where the rise and decay are 1/4 of the duration.
3) Each octave is traversed in 4.2 seconds, so each glissando is 37.8 seconds.
4) Each glissando starts 2.8 seconds after the previous one 

Here is the code

instr 1
 out(oscili(linen:a(2000,p3/4,p3,p3/4),expon:a(27.5,p3,14080)))
endin

ik = 0
while ik < 240 do
 schedule(1,ik*2.8,37.8)
 ik += 1
od
event_i "e", 0, ik*2.8+37.8 

It's a very striking piece. Matt did a multichannel version over 10 years ago which we played in a concert piece.
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Date2022-09-07 22:29
FromMichael Gogins
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Tenney's For Ann (Rising), new version
Thanks!

On Wed, Sep 7, 2022, 15:24 Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:
After chatting to Matt Ingalls, it appears that the original Csound version of Tenney's For Ann as realised for the CD of his electronic music
had an issue buried in it. I found a blog by Tom Erbe who realised describing Tenney's instructions and then I decided to make a new version,
with more compact code, using the modern resources of the language (and without a numeric score).

The instructions are:

1) 240 sinewave glissandos from 27.5 up 9 octaves to 14080 Hz.
2) A simple trapezoid envelope where the rise and decay are 1/4 of the duration.
3) Each octave is traversed in 4.2 seconds, so each glissando is 37.8 seconds.
4) Each glissando starts 2.8 seconds after the previous one

Here is the code

instr 1
 out(oscili(linen:a(2000,p3/4,p3,p3/4),expon:a(27.5,p3,14080)))
endin

ik = 0
while ik < 240 do
 schedule(1,ik*2.8,37.8)
 ik += 1
od
event_i "e", 0, ik*2.8+37.8

It's a very striking piece. Matt did a multichannel version over 10 years ago which we played in a concert piece.
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Date2022-09-08 18:38
Fromjoachim heintz
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Tenney's For Ann (Rising), new version
nice code.  when i ran it yesterday, i had as usual 0dbfs=1 in my header 
... --- perhaps you could write linen:a(0dbfs/16,p3/4,p3,p3/4) instead? 
  and perhaps outall instead of out?

best -
	joachim


On 07/09/2022 21:24, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> After chatting to Matt Ingalls, it appears that the original Csound version of Tenney's For Ann as realised for the CD of his electronic music
> had an issue buried in it. I found a blog by Tom Erbe who realised describing Tenney's instructions and then I decided to make a new version,
> with more compact code, using the modern resources of the language (and without a numeric score).
> 
> The instructions are:
> 
> 1) 240 sinewave glissandos from 27.5 up 9 octaves to 14080 Hz.
> 2) A simple trapezoid envelope where the rise and decay are 1/4 of the duration.
> 3) Each octave is traversed in 4.2 seconds, so each glissando is 37.8 seconds.
> 4) Each glissando starts 2.8 seconds after the previous one
> 
> Here is the code
> 
> instr 1
>   out(oscili(linen:a(2000,p3/4,p3,p3/4),expon:a(27.5,p3,14080)))
> endin
> 
> ik = 0
> while ik < 240 do
>   schedule(1,ik*2.8,37.8)
>   ik += 1
> od
> event_i "e", 0, ik*2.8+37.8
> 
> It's a very striking piece. Matt did a multichannel version over 10 years ago which we played in a concert piece.
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Date2022-09-08 20:22
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Csnd] Tenney's For Ann (Rising), new version
Of course you can make any changes you like to adapt to your needs, but the code runs as is without anything else.

Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 8 Sep 2022, at 18:39, joachim heintz  wrote:
> 
> *Warning*
> 
> This email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
> 
> nice code.  when i ran it yesterday, i had as usual 0dbfs=1 in my header
> ... --- perhaps you could write linen:a(0dbfs/16,p3/4,p3,p3/4) instead?
> and perhaps outall instead of out?
> 
> best -
>       joachim
> 
> 
>> On 07/09/2022 21:24, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>> After chatting to Matt Ingalls, it appears that the original Csound version of Tenney's For Ann as realised for the CD of his electronic music
>> had an issue buried in it. I found a blog by Tom Erbe who realised describing Tenney's instructions and then I decided to make a new version,
>> with more compact code, using the modern resources of the language (and without a numeric score).
>> 
>> The instructions are:
>> 
>> 1) 240 sinewave glissandos from 27.5 up 9 octaves to 14080 Hz.
>> 2) A simple trapezoid envelope where the rise and decay are 1/4 of the duration.
>> 3) Each octave is traversed in 4.2 seconds, so each glissando is 37.8 seconds.
>> 4) Each glissando starts 2.8 seconds after the previous one
>> 
>> Here is the code
>> 
>> instr 1
>>  out(oscili(linen:a(2000,p3/4,p3,p3/4),expon:a(27.5,p3,14080)))
>> endin
>> 
>> ik = 0
>> while ik < 240 do
>>  schedule(1,ik*2.8,37.8)
>>  ik += 1
>> od
>> event_i "e", 0, ik*2.8+37.8
>> 
>> It's a very striking piece. Matt did a multichannel version over 10 years ago which we played in a concert piece.
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Date2022-09-08 20:34
Fromjoachim heintz
SubjectRe: [Csnd] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Csnd] Tenney's For Ann (Rising), new version
sure but only if 0dbfs=32768.
when 0dbfs=1 it blows the speakers.
the proposed change (0dbfs/16 instead of 2000) would make it usable for 
any setting of 0dbfs.


On 08/09/2022 21:22, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> Of course you can make any changes you like to adapt to your needs, but the code runs as is without anything else.
> 
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
> 
>> On 8 Sep 2022, at 18:39, joachim heintz  wrote:
>>
>> *Warning*
>>
>> This email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
>>
>> nice code.  when i ran it yesterday, i had as usual 0dbfs=1 in my header
>> ... --- perhaps you could write linen:a(0dbfs/16,p3/4,p3,p3/4) instead?
>> and perhaps outall instead of out?
>>
>> best -
>>        joachim
>>
>>
>>> On 07/09/2022 21:24, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>> After chatting to Matt Ingalls, it appears that the original Csound version of Tenney's For Ann as realised for the CD of his electronic music
>>> had an issue buried in it. I found a blog by Tom Erbe who realised describing Tenney's instructions and then I decided to make a new version,
>>> with more compact code, using the modern resources of the language (and without a numeric score).
>>>
>>> The instructions are:
>>>
>>> 1) 240 sinewave glissandos from 27.5 up 9 octaves to 14080 Hz.
>>> 2) A simple trapezoid envelope where the rise and decay are 1/4 of the duration.
>>> 3) Each octave is traversed in 4.2 seconds, so each glissando is 37.8 seconds.
>>> 4) Each glissando starts 2.8 seconds after the previous one
>>>
>>> Here is the code
>>>
>>> instr 1
>>>   out(oscili(linen:a(2000,p3/4,p3,p3/4),expon:a(27.5,p3,14080)))
>>> endin
>>>
>>> ik = 0
>>> while ik < 240 do
>>>   schedule(1,ik*2.8,37.8)
>>>   ik += 1
>>> od
>>> event_i "e", 0, ik*2.8+37.8
>>>
>>> It's a very striking piece. Matt did a multichannel version over 10 years ago which we played in a concert piece.
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Date2022-09-08 21:57
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Csnd] Tenney's For Ann (Rising), new version
No, the default is 32768 and mono. 
There's nothing changing that in the code. As I said it's complete.

> On 8 Sept 2022, at 20:34, joachim heintz  wrote:
> 
> sure but only if 0dbfs=32768.
> when 0dbfs=1 it blows the speakers.
> the proposed change (0dbfs/16 instead of 2000) would make it usable for any setting of 0dbfs.
> 
> 
> On 08/09/2022 21:22, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>> Of course you can make any changes you like to adapt to your needs, but the code runs as is without anything else.
>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>> Maynooth University
>> Ireland
>>> On 8 Sep 2022, at 18:39, joachim heintz  wrote:
>>> 
>>> *Warning*
>>> 
>>> This email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
>>> 
>>> nice code.  when i ran it yesterday, i had as usual 0dbfs=1 in my header
>>> ... --- perhaps you could write linen:a(0dbfs/16,p3/4,p3,p3/4) instead?
>>> and perhaps outall instead of out?
>>> 
>>> best -
>>>       joachim
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 07/09/2022 21:24, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>> After chatting to Matt Ingalls, it appears that the original Csound version of Tenney's For Ann as realised for the CD of his electronic music
>>>> had an issue buried in it. I found a blog by Tom Erbe who realised describing Tenney's instructions and then I decided to make a new version,
>>>> with more compact code, using the modern resources of the language (and without a numeric score).
>>>> 
>>>> The instructions are:
>>>> 
>>>> 1) 240 sinewave glissandos from 27.5 up 9 octaves to 14080 Hz.
>>>> 2) A simple trapezoid envelope where the rise and decay are 1/4 of the duration.
>>>> 3) Each octave is traversed in 4.2 seconds, so each glissando is 37.8 seconds.
>>>> 4) Each glissando starts 2.8 seconds after the previous one
>>>> 
>>>> Here is the code
>>>> 
>>>> instr 1
>>>>  out(oscili(linen:a(2000,p3/4,p3,p3/4),expon:a(27.5,p3,14080)))
>>>> endin
>>>> 
>>>> ik = 0
>>>> while ik < 240 do
>>>>  schedule(1,ik*2.8,37.8)
>>>>  ik += 1
>>>> od
>>>> event_i "e", 0, ik*2.8+37.8
>>>> 
>>>> It's a very striking piece. Matt did a multichannel version over 10 years ago which we played in a concert piece.
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