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Date2020-09-12 18:45
FromVictor Lazzarini
Subject[Csnd] a nod to Csound
Reading this very interesting series on modular synths I see a nod to Csound in
part II


Very nice to see it mentioned there.

Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

Date2020-09-12 19:01
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
SubjectRe: [Csnd] a nod to Csound
Thanks for the link Victor
and yes, it is very nice that the author mentions Csound and his work with Csound at the end.

But the author is not correct in his conclusion about the Qu-Bit Nebulae Module
- yes, version1 was a little noisy, but I developed a ton of Csound instruments for it, as did many others
- I am converting these to the new model now.

The Qu-Bit Nebulae V2 is in production and for sale and has been for some time now.  It is a major upgrade in power, quality, fidelity - and at the same price
- and some Csounders are adding their own code - like Dave Seidel (and me!) - lots of instruments are on their site - more will surely come.
- many of my students have them and love them 
- The Nebulae V2 is now stereo in/out and does real-time stereo audio processing - live sampling and (one could say) live coding
- I had 5 of them (just let two go to two of my top students)
- I also still have 4 of the version 1 Nebulaes - which I love, especially love running my instruments on them!
(It runs Pd too)

And

As many of you know, the ElectroSmith "Daisy" (cool and like the Bela) is another of their products.
It is a prototyping platform with a number of formats and support systems. (I have the Pod, the Field, and the Patch)
It uses SoundPipe (mostly derived from Csound)
- A pure Csound version of Daisy is coming soon I hope.


Dr. Richard Boulanger

Professor of Electronic Production and Design

Berklee College of Music

Professional Writing and Technology Division


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On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 1:45 PM Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:
Reading this very interesting series on modular synths I see a nod to Csound in
part II


Very nice to see it mentioned there.

Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland
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Date2020-09-12 19:04
From"Dr. Richard Boulanger"
SubjectRe: [Csnd] a nod to Csound
Note that this article was written in 2017.  A lot in the modular world has emerged since then.
New cases, new modules, new clones, and DIY, and new prices.

Dr. Richard Boulanger

Professor of Electronic Production and Design

Berklee College of Music

Professional Writing and Technology Division




On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 1:45 PM Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:
Reading this very interesting series on modular synths I see a nod to Csound in
part II


Very nice to see it mentioned there.

Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland
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Date2020-09-14 05:34
FromJosh Moore
SubjectRe: [Csnd] a nod to Csound
i've noticed a trend in the modular world for more digital stuff too. they're past the trend phase, people are realizing it's apples and oranges, where the best digital is *not* analog emulations and the best analog is *not* trying to sound like an analog DX7 and failing miserably.

On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 11:04 AM Dr. Richard Boulanger <rboulanger@berklee.edu> wrote:
Note that this article was written in 2017.  A lot in the modular world has emerged since then.
New cases, new modules, new clones, and DIY, and new prices.

Dr. Richard Boulanger

Professor of Electronic Production and Design

Berklee College of Music

Professional Writing and Technology Division




On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 1:45 PM Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:
Reading this very interesting series on modular synths I see a nod to Csound in
part II


Very nice to see it mentioned there.

Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland
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Date2020-09-14 15:48
Frommskala@ANSUZ.SOOKE.BC.CA
SubjectRe: [Csnd] a nod to Csound
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020, Dr. Richard Boulanger wrote:

> > On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 1:45 PM Victor Lazzarini 
> > wrote:
> > https://northcoastsynthesis.com/news/modular-synthesis-dont-do-it/

> Note that this article was written in 2017.  A lot in the modular world has
> emerged since then.New cases, new modules, new clones, and DIY, and new
> prices.

I'm happy to see people on the Csound list getting some value from my
article.  It's true that some things have changed since I wrote it in
2017, including the subsequent release of the Nebulae V2.  Maybe it's time
for an updated version of that article, or at least adding a "Csound" tag
to make it and other relevant articles easier to find.  At the moment,
other items mentioning Csound on my site are available through the search.

In reference to the original Nebulae, I don't think my assessment is
inaccurate.  The large majority of people coming to that module from the
modular world as of 2017 were treating it as *just* a granular sample
player, and I heard a lot of complaints about it not being an ideal sample
player (in particular, about it not being retriggerable) from people who
didn't seem interested in reprogramming it themselves.

-- 
Matthew Skala
mskala@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca                 People before tribes.
https://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/

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Date2020-09-14 15:54
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd] a nod to Csound
Oh, I didn’t know it was you. I thought the series was very interesting and nicely written.
I got into it by reading Part 8 on the state variable filter types, polyvoks and wasp, then
worked my way backwards from there.
========================
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 14 Sep 2020, at 15:48, mskala@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote:
> 
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> 
> This email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
> 
> On Sat, 12 Sep 2020, Dr. Richard Boulanger wrote:
> 
>>> On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 1:45 PM Victor Lazzarini 
>>> wrote:
>>> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnorthcoastsynthesis.com%2Fnews%2Fmodular-synthesis-dont-do-it%2F&data=02%7C01%7CVictor.Lazzarini%40mu.ie%7C4bd1dbbaa1a04e0fa9e608d858bd59b6%7C1454f5ccbb354685bbd98621fd8055c9%7C1%7C1%7C637356917570407239&sdata=Jtk6AbrpZ%2FIxQ7S%2B1HiQ9sijXbGIka98010Oiki2gU0%3D&reserved=0
> 
>> Note that this article was written in 2017.  A lot in the modular world has
>> emerged since then.New cases, new modules, new clones, and DIY, and new
>> prices.
> 
> I'm happy to see people on the Csound list getting some value from my
> article.  It's true that some things have changed since I wrote it in
> 2017, including the subsequent release of the Nebulae V2.  Maybe it's time
> for an updated version of that article, or at least adding a "Csound" tag
> to make it and other relevant articles easier to find.  At the moment,
> other items mentioning Csound on my site are available through the search.
> 
> In reference to the original Nebulae, I don't think my assessment is
> inaccurate.  The large majority of people coming to that module from the
> modular world as of 2017 were treating it as *just* a granular sample
> player, and I heard a lot of complaints about it not being an ideal sample
> player (in particular, about it not being retriggerable) from people who
> didn't seem interested in reprogramming it themselves.
> 
> --
> Matthew Skala
> mskala@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca                 People before tribes.
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Date2020-09-14 15:56
FromDave Seidel
SubjectRe: [Csnd] a nod to Csound
I was happy to learn about your blog, and enjoying reading through it. I'm also starting to lust after a couple of yoru modules... :-)

On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 10:49 AM <mskala@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca> wrote:
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020, Dr. Richard Boulanger wrote:

> > On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 1:45 PM Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie>
> > wrote:
> > https://northcoastsynthesis.com/news/modular-synthesis-dont-do-it/

> Note that this article was written in 2017.  A lot in the modular world has
> emerged since then.New cases, new modules, new clones, and DIY, and new
> prices.

I'm happy to see people on the Csound list getting some value from my
article.  It's true that some things have changed since I wrote it in
2017, including the subsequent release of the Nebulae V2.  Maybe it's time
for an updated version of that article, or at least adding a "Csound" tag
to make it and other relevant articles easier to find.  At the moment,
other items mentioning Csound on my site are available through the search.

In reference to the original Nebulae, I don't think my assessment is
inaccurate.  The large majority of people coming to that module from the
modular world as of 2017 were treating it as *just* a granular sample
player, and I heard a lot of complaints about it not being an ideal sample
player (in particular, about it not being retriggerable) from people who
didn't seem interested in reprogramming it themselves.

--
Matthew Skala
mskala@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca                 People before tribes.
https://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/

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Date2020-09-14 15:58
FromVictor Lazzarini
SubjectRe: [Csnd] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd] a nod to Csound
To his credit, he warned the reader very early on about the addictive nature of modular synthesis ;)
========================
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 14 Sep 2020, at 15:56, Dave Seidel  wrote:
> 
> WARNINGThis email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
> I was happy to learn about your blog, and enjoying reading through it. I'm also starting to lust after a couple of yoru modules... :-)
> 
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 10:49 AM  wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Sep 2020, Dr. Richard Boulanger wrote:
> 
> > > On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 1:45 PM Victor Lazzarini 
> > > wrote:
> > > https://northcoastsynthesis.com/news/modular-synthesis-dont-do-it/
> 
> > Note that this article was written in 2017.  A lot in the modular world has
> > emerged since then.New cases, new modules, new clones, and DIY, and new
> > prices.
> 
> I'm happy to see people on the Csound list getting some value from my
> article.  It's true that some things have changed since I wrote it in
> 2017, including the subsequent release of the Nebulae V2.  Maybe it's time
> for an updated version of that article, or at least adding a "Csound" tag
> to make it and other relevant articles easier to find.  At the moment,
> other items mentioning Csound on my site are available through the search.
> 
> In reference to the original Nebulae, I don't think my assessment is
> inaccurate.  The large majority of people coming to that module from the
> modular world as of 2017 were treating it as *just* a granular sample
> player, and I heard a lot of complaints about it not being an ideal sample
> player (in particular, about it not being retriggerable) from people who
> didn't seem interested in reprogramming it themselves.
> 
> -- 
> Matthew Skala
> mskala@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca                 People before tribes.
> https://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/
> 
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Date2020-09-14 16:01
FromDave Seidel
SubjectRe: [Csnd] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd] a nod to Csound
Yes, I am well familiar with that malady.

On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 10:58 AM Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:
To his credit, he warned the reader very early on about the addictive nature of modular synthesis ;)
========================
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 14 Sep 2020, at 15:56, Dave Seidel <dave.seidel@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> WARNINGThis email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
> I was happy to learn about your blog, and enjoying reading through it. I'm also starting to lust after a couple of yoru modules... :-)
>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 10:49 AM <mskala@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca> wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Sep 2020, Dr. Richard Boulanger wrote:
>
> > > On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 1:45 PM Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie>
> > > wrote:
> > > https://northcoastsynthesis.com/news/modular-synthesis-dont-do-it/
>
> > Note that this article was written in 2017.  A lot in the modular world has
> > emerged since then.New cases, new modules, new clones, and DIY, and new
> > prices.
>
> I'm happy to see people on the Csound list getting some value from my
> article.  It's true that some things have changed since I wrote it in
> 2017, including the subsequent release of the Nebulae V2.  Maybe it's time
> for an updated version of that article, or at least adding a "Csound" tag
> to make it and other relevant articles easier to find.  At the moment,
> other items mentioning Csound on my site are available through the search.
>
> In reference to the original Nebulae, I don't think my assessment is
> inaccurate.  The large majority of people coming to that module from the
> modular world as of 2017 were treating it as *just* a granular sample
> player, and I heard a lot of complaints about it not being an ideal sample
> player (in particular, about it not being retriggerable) from people who
> didn't seem interested in reprogramming it themselves.
>
> --
> Matthew Skala
> mskala@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca                 People before tribes.
> https://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/
>
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