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[Csnd] Happy New Year!

Date2020-01-01 17:49
FromSeunghunn Yu
Subject[Csnd] Happy New Year!
Hello everybody!

I am quite new to this scene (both csound and electronic music) and just wanted to share with you all what I worked on with Csound over the last half year, hoping to get feedbacks or suggestions :)

Here are some live-electronic improvisations I did recently,

^ this one with a piano

^ this one was just playing around with stuff we had in the studio and our pockets :)

csound when used live - many of the instruments I created still formed clipping and overdrive(?) (Übersteuerung) even though its parameters and values 'theoretically' shouldn't have. So I just avoided using these certain problematic instruments during the performance, coz I could not find a solution. 

And it was interesting to find out; depending on the surroundings, it behaves differently. For example, just a simple sine wave, say poscil, in a small studio, (0dbfs=1) 0.1 was just enough, but in another concert hall, the exact same set-up for everything else, I actually had to put in 0.00001 to achieve similar dynamic outcome.... it was weird... did anyone else have the same experience? Maybe this abnormal phenomenon was the cause of the problem I mentioned above. :S

Anyway,
Happy New Year! Happy New Decade! I hope all the best for all of you!

Thanks!

Sincerely, 
Seunghunn
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Date2020-01-01 20:19
Fromjohn
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Happy New Year!

On Thu, 2 Jan 2020, Seunghunn Yu wrote:
> 
> csound when used live - many of the instruments I created still formed
> clipping and overdrive(?) (Übersteuerung) even though its parameters and
> values 'theoretically' shouldn't have. So I just avoided using these certain
> problematic instruments during the performance, coz I could not find a
> solution. 
>

Do you use a limiter or similar in the output?  Or use balance?  There are 
things that can e done in a variety of ways.

> And it was interesting to find out; depending on the surroundings, it behaves
> differently. For example, just a simple sine wave, say poscil, in a small
> studio, (0dbfs=1) 0.1 was just enough, but in another concert hall, the exact
> same set-up for everything else, I actually had to put in 0.00001 to achieve
> similar dynamic outcome.... it was weird... did anyone else have the same
> experience? Maybe this abnormal phenomenon was the cause of the problem I
> mentioned above. :S

I do not understand what you mean.  If 0.0001 amplitude is enough you must 
have a powerful amplifier!  Or I do not understand the question, which in 
quite likely.

Can you give more details, csound code, or information on environment etc?

==John ff

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Date2020-01-03 02:28
FromSeunghunn Yu
SubjectRe: [Csnd] Happy New Year!
Thank you for the reply John,

I don't know what exactly I have to describe more, but...

I tested everything out, simulation done in our studio, everything was fine,
and I brought the exact same mixer, microphones, the same routing for the mixer, same EQ, same computer, same audio-interface, of course the same patch, (used different speakers, without any additional amplifiers), everything was exactly same as in the studio but the output dynamic for some instruments were just too too loud. (When reacted with live inputs)

It is no problem now, but I was just wondering if anyone else had the experience when using Csound live.

Thank you!

2020년 1월 2일 (목) 오전 5:19, john <jpff@codemist.co.uk>님이 작성:


On Thu, 2 Jan 2020, Seunghunn Yu wrote:
>
> csound when used live - many of the instruments I created still formed
> clipping and overdrive(?) (Übersteuerung) even though its parameters and
> values 'theoretically' shouldn't have. So I just avoided using these certain
> problematic instruments during the performance, coz I could not find a
> solution. 
>

Do you use a limiter or similar in the output?  Or use balance?  There are
things that can e done in a variety of ways.

> And it was interesting to find out; depending on the surroundings, it behaves
> differently. For example, just a simple sine wave, say poscil, in a small
> studio, (0dbfs=1) 0.1 was just enough, but in another concert hall, the exact
> same set-up for everything else, I actually had to put in 0.00001 to achieve
> similar dynamic outcome.... it was weird... did anyone else have the same
> experience? Maybe this abnormal phenomenon was the cause of the problem I
> mentioned above. :S

I do not understand what you mean.  If 0.0001 amplitude is enough you must
have a powerful amplifier!  Or I do not understand the question, which in
quite likely.

Can you give more details, csound code, or information on environment etc?

==John ff

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