Hi All,

I was looking at the Csound conference page and was thinking it might
be interesting to propose doing a Developer workshop. The idea would
be to discuss development and walk through getting everything setup
for development, building, code repository walkthrough, discuss
aspects of architecture, do some exercises debugging code (could
create a branch of csound that has bugs to diagnose and fix), etc.
Could maybe go through some workflows getting setup to dev with VS
Code, XCode, and Visual Studio, as well as go through some different
platform builds (Web, Android, iOS).

Thought I'd run the idea here to gauge community interest before
making a proposal. I was thinking it might be one of the best
opportunities for us to go through it together and for us to share
knowledge. (Might also help to kick off better documentation of the
system?)

Thanks!
Steven

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that's a wonderful idea, steven.
yours and hlodver's workshop in athlone was a highlight of the previous 
conference, too.
we should try to document this workshop as good as possible in video so 
that it can be put on youtube and available for all who are interested 
in getting into csound development.
looking forward to it (applying for a seat in the second row=) -
	joachim


On 23/04/2024 20:55, Alex Hofmann wrote:
> Hi Steven, Tarmo and Dr.B,
> 
> I fully support the idea of such a workshop and also the focus such a 
> workshop should get in the program. So please add these requirements to 
> an eventual proposal and we'll do our best to find the appropriate time 
> slot(s).
> 
> Best,
> Alex
> 
>> Am 23.04.2024 um 16:46 schrieb Tarmo Johannes > >:
>>
>> This is a brilliant idea, Steven!
>> As it is so important for possible new collaborations in devlopment, I 
>> suggest there could be a session in 2 or even 3 days - getting really 
>> hands on takes some time but I believe it is totally worth it.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Tarmo
>>
>> T, 23. aprill 2024 17:04 Dr. Richard Boulanger > > kirjutas:
>>
>>     YES!  That would be awesome -
>>
>>     but...
>>
>>     please encourage the Conference organizers to NOT schedule a
>>     conflicting-competing workshop
>>     at the same time as this.
>>
>>     It would be cool, valuable, good for ALL Csounders to attend such
>>     a workshop (coder or not) with their laptops and have you take us
>>     on this journey together.
>>
>>     I will be there in the front row!
>>
>>     *- Dr.B*
>>     *
>>     *
>>     *Dr. Richard Boulanger*
>>     Professor
>>     Electronic Production and Design
>>     *Berklee College of Music*
>>     Professional Writing & Technology Division
>>
>>
>>     On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 9:49 AM Steven Yi >     > wrote:
>>
>>         Hi All,
>>
>>         I was looking at the Csound conference page and was thinking
>>         it might
>>         be interesting to propose doing a Developer workshop. The idea
>>         would
>>         be to discuss development and walk through getting everything
>>         setup
>>         for development, building, code repository walkthrough, discuss
>>         aspects of architecture, do some exercises debugging code (could
>>         create a branch of csound that has bugs to diagnose and fix), etc.
>>         Could maybe go through some workflows getting setup to dev with VS
>>         Code, XCode, and Visual Studio, as well as go through some
>>         different
>>         platform builds (Web, Android, iOS).
>>
>>         Thought I'd run the idea here to gauge community interest before
>>         making a proposal. I was thinking it might be one of the best
>>         opportunities for us to go through it together and for us to share
>>         knowledge. (Might also help to kick off better documentation
>>         of the
>>         system?)
>>
>>         Thanks!
>>         Steven
>>
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Thanks Alex and everyone for your responses!

Happy to see there is good interest in the idea. I will go ahead and
work on and submit a proposal.

Cheers!
Steven

On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 2:55 PM Alex Hofmann
<00000fd4e0654f05-dmarc-request@listserv.heanet.ie> wrote:
>
> Hi Steven, Tarmo and Dr.B,
>
> I fully support the idea of such a workshop and also the focus such a workshop should get in the program. So please add these requirements to an eventual proposal and we'll do our best to find the appropriate time slot(s).
>
> Best,
> Alex
>
> Am 23.04.2024 um 16:46 schrieb Tarmo Johannes :
>
> This is a brilliant idea, Steven!
> As it is so important for possible new collaborations in devlopment, I suggest there could be a session in 2 or even 3 days - getting really hands on takes some time but I believe it is totally worth it.
>
> Thanks!
> Tarmo
>
> T, 23. aprill 2024 17:04 Dr. Richard Boulanger  kirjutas:
>>
>> YES!  That would be awesome -
>>
>> but...
>>
>> please encourage the Conference organizers to NOT schedule a conflicting-competing workshop
>> at the same time as this.
>>
>> It would be cool, valuable, good for ALL Csounders to attend such a workshop (coder or not) with their laptops and have you take us on this journey together.
>>
>> I will be there in the front row!
>>
>> - Dr.B
>>
>> Dr. Richard Boulanger
>> Professor
>> Electronic Production and Design
>> Berklee College of Music
>> Professional Writing & Technology Division
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 9:49 AM Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I was looking at the Csound conference page and was thinking it might
>>> be interesting to propose doing a Developer workshop. The idea would
>>> be to discuss development and walk through getting everything setup
>>> for development, building, code repository walkthrough, discuss
>>> aspects of architecture, do some exercises debugging code (could
>>> create a branch of csound that has bugs to diagnose and fix), etc.
>>> Could maybe go through some workflows getting setup to dev with VS
>>> Code, XCode, and Visual Studio, as well as go through some different
>>> platform builds (Web, Android, iOS).
>>>
>>> Thought I'd run the idea here to gauge community interest before
>>> making a proposal. I was thinking it might be one of the best
>>> opportunities for us to go through it together and for us to share
>>> knowledge. (Might also help to kick off better documentation of the
>>> system?)
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Steven
>>>
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