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I'm not surprised. I've hit some serious issues with p5.sound, I reckon they'll stick strictly to web audio rather than any wasm stuff, although I didn't read the call 🤣

On Wed 9 Nov 2022, 6:19 p.m. Victor Lazzarini, <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:

Looks like they want to re-do their sound stuff

https://processingfoundation.org/fellowships/p5-sound-fellow-2023-open-call

an opportunity for Csound? Or for Csounders to earn some development cash?

Prof. Victor Lazzarini

Maynooth University

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I've often thought about making a p5.csound but the current js Csound is so easy to use there doesn't seem to be any need. But it would be good PR. 

On Wed 9 Nov 2022, 8:37 p.m. Victor Lazzarini, <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:

12k for 200 hours work

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On 9 Nov 2022, at 20:22, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:



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I'm not surprised. I've hit some serious issues with p5.sound, I reckon they'll stick strictly to web audio rather than any wasm stuff, although I didn't read the call 🤣

On Wed 9 Nov 2022, 6:19 p.m. Victor Lazzarini, <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:

Looks like they want to re-do their sound stuff

https://processingfoundation.org/fellowships/p5-sound-fellow-2023-open-call

an opportunity for Csound? Or for Csounders to earn some development cash?

Prof. Victor Lazzarini

Maynooth University

Ireland

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this lightweight wrapper would be a great feature!!


On 10/11/2022 13:14, Rory Walsh wrote:
> The problem is it becomes another interface to maintain and keep in sync 
> with what Steven Hloover and Ed are doing. And if it's not maintained 
> and sync-ed tightly it will end up being bad for Csound. Maybe a super 
> lightweight wrapper might work. Basically something to expose the Csound 
> object to users in p5js. Something like
> 
> let cs = new p5.Csound();
> 
> and after that users can just call all the native Csound object methods. 
> It would really just be a marketing exercise 😂 But still...
> 
> On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 at 11:59, Dr. Richard Boulanger 
> > wrote:
> 
>     Maybe worth doing?
> 
>     p5.csound
> 
>     I am sure that in addition to the excellent PR for csound that this
>     might make web audio with csound even more intuitive and elegant.
> 
>     Dr. Richard Boulanger
>     Professor
>     Electronic Production and Design
>     Berklee College of Music
> 
>>     On Nov 9, 2022, at 3:44 PM, Rory Walsh >     > wrote:
>>
>>     
>>     I've often thought about making a p5.csound but the current js
>>     Csound is so easy to use there doesn't seem to be any need. But it
>>     would be good PR.
>>
>>     On Wed 9 Nov 2022, 8:37 p.m. Victor Lazzarini,
>>     > wrote:
>>
>>         12k for 200 hours work
>>
>>         Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>>         Maynooth University
>>         Ireland
>>
>>>         On 9 Nov 2022, at 20:22, Rory Walsh >>         > wrote:
>>>
>>>         
>>>
>>>
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>>>         I'm not surprised. I've hit some serious issues with
>>>         p5.sound, I reckon they'll stick strictly to web audio rather
>>>         than any wasm stuff, although I didn't read the call 🤣
>>>
>>>         On Wed 9 Nov 2022, 6:19 p.m. Victor Lazzarini,
>>>         > wrote:
>>>
>>>             Looks like they want to re-do their sound stuff
>>>
>>>             https://processingfoundation.org/fellowships/p5-sound-fellow-2023-open-call 
>>>
>>>             an opportunity for Csound? Or for Csounders to earn some
>>>             development cash?
>>>
>>>
>>>             Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>>>             Maynooth University
>>>             Ireland
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>>>             
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12k for 200 hours
========================
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> On 11 Nov 2022, at 09:24, Rory Walsh  wrote:
> 
> I'll take a look and see if it's worth it 👍
> 
> On Fri 11 Nov 2022, 8:29 a.m. joachim heintz,  wrote:
> this lightweight wrapper would be a great feature!!
> 
> 
> On 10/11/2022 13:14, Rory Walsh wrote:
> > The problem is it becomes another interface to maintain and keep in sync 
> > with what Steven Hloover and Ed are doing. And if it's not maintained 
> > and sync-ed tightly it will end up being bad for Csound. Maybe a super 
> > lightweight wrapper might work. Basically something to expose the Csound 
> > object to users in p5js. Something like
> > 
> > let cs = new p5.Csound();
> > 
> > and after that users can just call all the native Csound object methods. 
> > It would really just be a marketing exercise 😂 But still...
> > 
> > On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 at 11:59, Dr. Richard Boulanger 
> > > wrote:
> > 
> >     Maybe worth doing?
> > 
> >     p5.csound
> > 
> >     I am sure that in addition to the excellent PR for csound that this
> >     might make web audio with csound even more intuitive and elegant.
> > 
> >     Dr. Richard Boulanger
> >     Professor
> >     Electronic Production and Design
> >     Berklee College of Music
> > 
> >>     On Nov 9, 2022, at 3:44 PM, Rory Walsh  >>     > wrote:
> >>
> >>     
> >>     I've often thought about making a p5.csound but the current js
> >>     Csound is so easy to use there doesn't seem to be any need. But it
> >>     would be good PR.
> >>
> >>     On Wed 9 Nov 2022, 8:37 p.m. Victor Lazzarini,
> >>     > wrote:
> >>
> >>         12k for 200 hours work
> >>
> >>         Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> >>         Maynooth University
> >>         Ireland
> >>
> >>>         On 9 Nov 2022, at 20:22, Rory Walsh  >>>         > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>         
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>         I'm not surprised. I've hit some serious issues with
> >>>         p5.sound, I reckon they'll stick strictly to web audio rather
> >>>         than any wasm stuff, although I didn't read the call 🤣
> >>>
> >>>         On Wed 9 Nov 2022, 6:19 p.m. Victor Lazzarini,
> >>>         > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>             Looks like they want to re-do their sound stuff
> >>>
> >>>             https://processingfoundation.org/fellowships/p5-sound-fellow-2023-open-call 
> >>>
> >>>             an opportunity for Csound? Or for Csounders to earn some
> >>>             development cash?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>             Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> >>>             Maynooth University
> >>>             Ireland
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Yeah, but I don't think they would go for a 3rd party library. I get the impression they want to do it with native web audio. 

On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 at 09:35, Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:

12k for 200 hours
========================
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
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> On 11 Nov 2022, at 09:24, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:
>
> I'll take a look and see if it's worth it 👍
>
> On Fri 11 Nov 2022, 8:29 a.m. joachim heintz, <jh@joachimheintz.de> wrote:
> this lightweight wrapper would be a great feature!!
>
>
> On 10/11/2022 13:14, Rory Walsh wrote:
> > The problem is it becomes another interface to maintain and keep in sync
> > with what Steven Hloover and Ed are doing. And if it's not maintained
> > and sync-ed tightly it will end up being bad for Csound. Maybe a super
> > lightweight wrapper might work. Basically something to expose the Csound
> > object to users in p5js. Something like
> >
> > let cs = new p5.Csound();
> >
> > and after that users can just call all the native Csound object methods.
> > It would really just be a marketing exercise 😂 But still...
> >
> > On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 at 11:59, Dr. Richard Boulanger
> > <rboulanger@berklee.edu <mailto:rboulanger@berklee.edu>> wrote:
> >
> >     Maybe worth doing?
> >
> >     p5.csound
> >
> >     I am sure that in addition to the excellent PR for csound that this
> >     might make web audio with csound even more intuitive and elegant.
> >
> >     Dr. Richard Boulanger
> >     Professor
> >     Electronic Production and Design
> >     Berklee College of Music
> >
> >>     On Nov 9, 2022, at 3:44 PM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie
> >>     <mailto:rorywalsh@ear.ie>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     
> >>     I've often thought about making a p5.csound but the current js
> >>     Csound is so easy to use there doesn't seem to be any need. But it
> >>     would be good PR.
> >>
> >>     On Wed 9 Nov 2022, 8:37 p.m. Victor Lazzarini,
> >>     <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie <mailto:Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie>> wrote:
> >>
> >>         12k for 200 hours work
> >>
> >>         Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> >>         Maynooth University
> >>         Ireland
> >>
> >>>         On 9 Nov 2022, at 20:22, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie
> >>>         <mailto:rorywalsh@ear.ie>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>         
> >>>
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> >>>         p5.sound, I reckon they'll stick strictly to web audio rather
> >>>         than any wasm stuff, although I didn't read the call 🤣
> >>>
> >>>         On Wed 9 Nov 2022, 6:19 p.m. Victor Lazzarini,
> >>>         <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie <mailto:Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie>> wrote:
> >>>
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