Hi all,

As suggested by Steven, we should meet up to clear some outstanding discussion items before 6.17 is concluded. In the agenda, I have

- autogenerated headers
- roadmap towards 7, post 6.17

plus any other items that may be proposed.
We could try set a time next week that would work for both sides of the Atlantic. I am generally ok up until 4:30 Irish Time, except on Wednesday.

I can set it up on Microsloth Teams, which is what we use here, as long as it works for everyone. Or we can use Google meets if it doesn't.

Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

Because we don’t have a zoom subscription and free zoom meetings are time limited.
========================
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 5 Jan 2022, at 18:39, Michael Gogins  wrote:
> 
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> Why not just set it up as a Zoom meeting?
> 
> In any event, any time is probably fine with me.
> 
> Best,
> Mike
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Michael Gogins
> Irreducible Productions
> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 1:25 PM Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> As suggested by Steven, we should meet up to clear some outstanding discussion items before 6.17 is concluded. In the agenda, I have
> 
> - autogenerated headers
> - roadmap towards 7, post 6.17
> 
> plus any other items that may be proposed.
> We could try set a time next week that would work for both sides of the Atlantic. I am generally ok up until 4:30 Irish Time, except on Wednesday.
> 
> I can set it up on Microsloth Teams, which is what we use here, as long as it works for everyone. Or we can use Google meets if it doesn't.
> 
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Maynooth University
> Ireland

Whatever is easiest to all. Teams is what we use here at the university.
========================
Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 5 Jan 2022, at 19:47, Michael Gogins  wrote:
> 
> I have a paid Zoom subscription and could host the meeting for up to 100 participants.
> 
> Best,
> Mike
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Michael Gogins
> Irreducible Productions
> http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
> Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 2:44 PM Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
> Because we don’t have a zoom subscription and free zoom meetings are time limited.
> ========================
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
> 
> > On 5 Jan 2022, at 18:39, Michael Gogins  wrote:
> > 
> > WARNINGThis email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
> > Why not just set it up as a Zoom meeting?
> > 
> > In any event, any time is probably fine with me.
> > 
> > Best,
> > Mike
> > 
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> > Michael Gogins
> > Irreducible Productions
> > http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com
> > Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 1:25 PM Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > As suggested by Steven, we should meet up to clear some outstanding discussion items before 6.17 is concluded. In the agenda, I have
> > 
> > - autogenerated headers
> > - roadmap towards 7, post 6.17
> > 
> > plus any other items that may be proposed.
> > We could try set a time next week that would work for both sides of the Atlantic. I am generally ok up until 4:30 Irish Time, except on Wednesday.
> > 
> > I can set it up on Microsloth Teams, which is what we use here, as long as it works for everyone. Or we can use Google meets if it doesn't.
> > 
> > Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> > Maynooth University
> > Ireland
> 

Does Tuesday, Jan 11, 9am EST work for everyone? Happy to use any tool
for video chat.

On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 1:25 PM Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> As suggested by Steven, we should meet up to clear some outstanding discussion items before 6.17 is concluded. In the agenda, I have
>
> - autogenerated headers
> - roadmap towards 7, post 6.17
>
> plus any other items that may be proposed.
> We could try set a time next week that would work for both sides of the Atlantic. I am generally ok up until 4:30 Irish Time, except on Wednesday.
>
> I can set it up on Microsloth Teams, which is what we use here, as long as it works for everyone. Or we can use Google meets if it doesn't.
>
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Maynooth University
> Ireland

Thursday or Friday would also work for me.

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 2:19 AM Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Thanks for the initiative.
> I am unable to attend on Tuesday, but I could do Thursday at 9am EST.
> Then again, my participation is probably less important, so it is better that you find a time that fits for all the core developers.
> Øyvind
>
> tor. 6. jan. 2022 kl. 06:10 skrev Steven Yi :
>>
>> Does Tuesday, Jan 11, 9am EST work for everyone? Happy to use any tool
>> for video chat.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 1:25 PM Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > As suggested by Steven, we should meet up to clear some outstanding discussion items before 6.17 is concluded. In the agenda, I have
>> >
>> > - autogenerated headers
>> > - roadmap towards 7, post 6.17
>> >
>> > plus any other items that may be proposed.
>> > We could try set a time next week that would work for both sides of the Atlantic. I am generally ok up until 4:30 Irish Time, except on Wednesday.
>> >
>> > I can set it up on Microsloth Teams, which is what we use here, as long as it works for everyone. Or we can use Google meets if it doesn't.
>> >
>> > Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>> > Maynooth University
>> > Ireland

Should we settle for Thurs at 2pm GMT? That's 9AM EST. I think John signalled he could do this.

> On 6 Jan 2022, at 16:06, Steven Yi  wrote:
> 
> *Warning*
> 
> This email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
> 
> Thursday or Friday would also work for me.
> 
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 2:19 AM Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Thanks for the initiative.
>> I am unable to attend on Tuesday, but I could do Thursday at 9am EST.
>> Then again, my participation is probably less important, so it is better that you find a time that fits for all the core developers.
>> Øyvind
>> 
>> tor. 6. jan. 2022 kl. 06:10 skrev Steven Yi :
>>> 
>>> Does Tuesday, Jan 11, 9am EST work for everyone? Happy to use any tool
>>> for video chat.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 1:25 PM Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> As suggested by Steven, we should meet up to clear some outstanding discussion items before 6.17 is concluded. In the agenda, I have
>>>> 
>>>> - autogenerated headers
>>>> - roadmap towards 7, post 6.17
>>>> 
>>>> plus any other items that may be proposed.
>>>> We could try set a time next week that would work for both sides of the Atlantic. I am generally ok up until 4:30 Irish Time, except on Wednesday.
>>>> 
>>>> I can set it up on Microsloth Teams, which is what we use here, as long as it works for everyone. Or we can use Google meets if it doesn't.
>>>> 
>>>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>>>> Maynooth University
>>>> Ireland

Thursday 13 Jan @ 14:00 GMT for an hour is OK for me as far as I can tell.

It is in my diary.

I prefer jitsi meet to the other similar systems but usually zoom works; 
had trouble with micro$oft in the past and also with google.

==John ff

On Thu, 6 Jan 2022, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

> Should we settle for Thurs at 2pm GMT? That's 9AM EST. I think John signalled he could do this.
>
>> On 6 Jan 2022, at 16:06, Steven Yi  wrote:
>>
>> *Warning*
>>
>> This email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
>>
>> Thursday or Friday would also work for me.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 2:19 AM Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Thanks for the initiative.
>>> I am unable to attend on Tuesday, but I could do Thursday at 9am EST.
>>> Then again, my participation is probably less important, so it is better that you find a time that fits for all the core developers.
>>> Øyvind
>>>
>>> tor. 6. jan. 2022 kl. 06:10 skrev Steven Yi :
>>>>
>>>> Does Tuesday, Jan 11, 9am EST work for everyone? Happy to use any tool
>>>> for video chat.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 1:25 PM Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> As suggested by Steven, we should meet up to clear some outstanding discussion items before 6.17 is concluded. In the agenda, I have
>>>>>
>>>>> - autogenerated headers
>>>>> - roadmap towards 7, post 6.17
>>>>>
>>>>> plus any other items that may be proposed.
>>>>> We could try set a time next week that would work for both sides of the Atlantic. I am generally ok up until 4:30 Irish Time, except on Wednesday.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can set it up on Microsloth Teams, which is what we use here, as long as it works for everyone. Or we can use Google meets if it doesn't.
>>>>>
>>>>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>> Ireland
>
>



I feel the same Tarmo. I'm happy to sit quietly in the corner while the team go about their work!  

On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 at 12:40, Tarmo Johannes <trmjhnns@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

Most likely I will not be able to join but I believe it is more about Csound core development anyway. Anyway, I wrote the time to my diary and if something changes I will be delighted to join and listen.

greetings,

tarmo

Kontakt Rory Walsh (<rorywalsh@ear.ie>) kirjutas kuupäeval R, 7. jaanuar 2022 kell 13:11:

I should be able to drop in too.

On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 at 09:01, Oeyvind Brandtsegg <obrandts@gmail.com> wrote:

Wonderful, I'll be there.

tor. 6. jan. 2022 kl. 17:54 skrev john <jpff@codemist.co.uk>:

Thursday 13 Jan @ 14:00 GMT for an hour is OK for me as far as I can tell.

It is in my diary.

I prefer jitsi meet to the other similar systems but usually zoom works;
had trouble with micro$oft in the past and also with google.

==John ff

On Thu, 6 Jan 2022, Victor Lazzarini wrote:

> Should we settle for Thurs at 2pm GMT? That's 9AM EST. I think John signalled he could do this.
>
>> On 6 Jan 2022, at 16:06, Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> *Warning*
>>
>> This email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
>>
>> Thursday or Friday would also work for me.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 2:19 AM Oeyvind Brandtsegg <obrandts@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Thanks for the initiative.
>>> I am unable to attend on Tuesday, but I could do Thursday at 9am EST.
>>> Then again, my participation is probably less important, so it is better that you find a time that fits for all the core developers.
>>> Øyvind
>>>
>>> tor. 6. jan. 2022 kl. 06:10 skrev Steven Yi <stevenyi@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> Does Tuesday, Jan 11, 9am EST work for everyone? Happy to use any tool
>>>> for video chat.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 1:25 PM Victor Lazzarini <Victor.Lazzarini@mu.ie> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> As suggested by Steven, we should meet up to clear some outstanding discussion items before 6.17 is concluded. In the agenda, I have
>>>>>
>>>>> - autogenerated headers
>>>>> - roadmap towards 7, post 6.17
>>>>>
>>>>> plus any other items that may be proposed.
>>>>> We could try set a time next week that would work for both sides of the Atlantic. I am generally ok up until 4:30 Irish Time, except on Wednesday.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can set it up on Microsloth Teams, which is what we use here, as long as it works for everyone. Or we can use Google meets if it doesn't.
>>>>>
>>>>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>>>>> Maynooth University
>>>>> Ireland
>
>

I will be sitting quietly in the corner too.

On Jan 7, 2022, at 6:49 AM, Rory Walsh <rorywalsh@ear.ie> wrote:

I feel the same Tarmo. I'm happy to sit quietly in the corner while the team go about their work!  

On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 at 12:40, Tarmo Johannes <trmjhnns@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

Most likely I will not be able to join but I believe it is more about Csound core development anyway. Anyway, I wrote the time to my diary and if something changes I will be delighted to join and listen.

greetings,

tarmo

So may i eavesdrop on the door? :)

Jitsi works for me, see you all soon!

On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 7:29 AM Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>
> Ok, we have a date.
>
> The suggestion is to use jitsi for the meeting as it avoids the need for hosts and it seems to be open enough.
>
> Would that work for everyone?
>
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
>
> On 6 Jan 2022, at 16:36, Michael Gogins  wrote:
>
> 
> *Warning* This email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
> Me too.
>
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 11:06 Steven Yi  wrote:
>>
>> Thursday or Friday would also work for me.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 2:19 AM Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> > Thanks for the initiative.
>> > I am unable to attend on Tuesday, but I could do Thursday at 9am EST.
>> > Then again, my participation is probably less important, so it is better that you find a time that fits for all the core developers.
>> > Øyvind
>> >
>> > tor. 6. jan. 2022 kl. 06:10 skrev Steven Yi :
>> >>
>> >> Does Tuesday, Jan 11, 9am EST work for everyone? Happy to use any tool
>> >> for video chat.
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 1:25 PM Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi all,
>> >> >
>> >> > As suggested by Steven, we should meet up to clear some outstanding discussion items before 6.17 is concluded. In the agenda, I have
>> >> >
>> >> > - autogenerated headers
>> >> > - roadmap towards 7, post 6.17
>> >> >
>> >> > plus any other items that may be proposed.
>> >> > We could try set a time next week that would work for both sides of the Atlantic. I am generally ok up until 4:30 Irish Time, except on Wednesday.
>> >> >
>> >> > I can set it up on Microsloth Teams, which is what we use here, as long as it works for everyone. Or we can use Google meets if it doesn't.
>> >> >
>> >> > Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>> >> > Maynooth University

Also one note, regarding agenda, I think the discussion of
auto-generated headers should be expanded to discussion of simplifying
building for API users as well template model projects that people can
copy and use for their own work. From this, we've talked about it
before but there hasn't been much progress thus far, so one of the
things I'd like to see out of the meeting is figuring out a schedule
and action plan to get these items done. I think having a roadmap with
a planned target dates will help to get the gears moving.

On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 11:31 AM Steven Yi  wrote:
>
> Jitsi works for me, see you all soon!
>
> On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 7:29 AM Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
> >
> > Ok, we have a date.
> >
> > The suggestion is to use jitsi for the meeting as it avoids the need for hosts and it seems to be open enough.
> >
> > Would that work for everyone?
> >
> > Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> > Maynooth University
> > Ireland
> >
> > On 6 Jan 2022, at 16:36, Michael Gogins  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > *Warning* This email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
> > Me too.
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 11:06 Steven Yi  wrote:
> >>
> >> Thursday or Friday would also work for me.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 2:19 AM Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> > Thanks for the initiative.
> >> > I am unable to attend on Tuesday, but I could do Thursday at 9am EST.
> >> > Then again, my participation is probably less important, so it is better that you find a time that fits for all the core developers.
> >> > Øyvind
> >> >
> >> > tor. 6. jan. 2022 kl. 06:10 skrev Steven Yi :
> >> >>
> >> >> Does Tuesday, Jan 11, 9am EST work for everyone? Happy to use any tool
> >> >> for video chat.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 1:25 PM Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hi all,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > As suggested by Steven, we should meet up to clear some outstanding discussion items before 6.17 is concluded. In the agenda, I have
> >> >> >
> >> >> > - autogenerated headers
> >> >> > - roadmap towards 7, post 6.17
> >> >> >
> >> >> > plus any other items that may be proposed.
> >> >> > We could try set a time next week that would work for both sides of the Atlantic. I am generally ok up until 4:30 Irish Time, except on Wednesday.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I can set it up on Microsloth Teams, which is what we use here, as long as it works for everyone. Or we can use Google meets if it doesn't.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> >> >> > Maynooth University

Agenda:

HomeBrew updates? (please)

They have allowed me to do weekly  development work with John ffitch on my MacBook for the past year.  It has been great.  Him on Linux and me on Mac

Dr. Richard Boulanger
Professor
Electronic Production and Design
Berklee College of Music

> On Jan 8, 2022, at 11:37 AM, Steven Yi  wrote:
> 
> Also one note, regarding agenda, I think the discussion of
> auto-generated headers should be expanded to discussion of simplifying
> building for API users as well template model projects that people can
> copy and use for their own work. From this, we've talked about it
> before but there hasn't been much progress thus far, so one of the
> things I'd like to see out of the meeting is figuring out a schedule
> and action plan to get these items done. I think having a roadmap with
> a planned target dates will help to get the gears moving.
> 
>> On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 11:31 AM Steven Yi  wrote:
>> 
>> Jitsi works for me, see you all soon!
>> 
>>> On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 7:29 AM Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, we have a date.
>>> 
>>> The suggestion is to use jitsi for the meeting as it avoids the need for hosts and it seems to be open enough.
>>> 
>>> Would that work for everyone?
>>> 
>>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>>> Maynooth University
>>> Ireland
>>> 
>>>> On 6 Jan 2022, at 16:36, Michael Gogins  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *Warning* This email originated from outside of Maynooth University's Mail System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
>>> Me too.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 11:06 Steven Yi  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thursday or Friday would also work for me.
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 2:19 AM Oeyvind Brandtsegg  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Thanks for the initiative.
>>>>> I am unable to attend on Tuesday, but I could do Thursday at 9am EST.
>>>>> Then again, my participation is probably less important, so it is better that you find a time that fits for all the core developers.
>>>>> Øyvind
>>>>> 
>>>>> tor. 6. jan. 2022 kl. 06:10 skrev Steven Yi :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does Tuesday, Jan 11, 9am EST work for everyone? Happy to use any tool
>>>>>> for video chat.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 1:25 PM Victor Lazzarini  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As suggested by Steven, we should meet up to clear some outstanding discussion items before 6.17 is concluded. In the agenda, I have
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - autogenerated headers
>>>>>>> - roadmap towards 7, post 6.17
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> plus any other items that may be proposed.
>>>>>>> We could try set a time next week that would work for both sides of the Atlantic. I am generally ok up until 4:30 Irish Time, except on Wednesday.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I can set it up on Microsloth Teams, which is what we use here, as long as it works for everyone. Or we can use Google meets if it doesn't.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>>>>>>> Maynooth University